A suggestion to moderate Muslims of the world

Dear freedom and peace lovers:

Please see a video at below link.

http://tarekfatah.com/islam-vs-islamists/

It informs that:

  • Islam is against democratic form of government
  • Saudi Arabia is financially helping Wahhabis (extreme Islamists) to spread their ideology all over the world provided they do not do it in Saudi Arabia
  • There are so called moderate Muslims who refuse to follow extreme Islam and they do not do jihad, do believe in democracy and freedom of thought, speech and action

 

Skanda987 argues here that Islam contains the cancer if extremism. Therefore, there is no guarantee that the new generations (the family lines) of these moderate Muslims will also be moderates and peace and freedom loving persons. So, Skanda987 believes it is better for the moderates to give up Islam openly and become a humanist, an atheist, or pick up any other tolerant religion of choice. The benefits of quitting Islam are these:

 

  • You are not expected to visit any mosque
  • You do not need to attend any madrassa
  • You do not have to dress like a Muslim
  • You do not need to defend the moderates
  • You are not expected to live by Sharia
  • You do not need to circumcise
  • You do not need to cut clitoris of your young girls
  • You do not need to celebrate any Muslim holidays
  • You are free to draw pictures of lives, or draw cartoons
  • You are free to sing and play instruments
  • You will not ask for a separate law or separate room for prayer
  • You will know the qualities and characteristics of God, heaven or hell from a chosen tolerant religion of your choice
  • Muslim women will enjoy a lot of freedoms like:
    • They will not wear burkha
    • They will not have fear of instant divorce by husband saying “tallaq, tallak, tallak.”
    • They will freely go to schools and universities to get any education they want and be what they want to be
    • They are not likely to produce jihadists and extremist children
    • They will be free to swim in sea, lakes, and swimming pools
    • They will be free to drive cars
    • They will be treated like a human being, not like property of the husband or males of the family

 

Skanda987 thinks it will be a positive step toward world peace if the moderates give up Islam.

 

Jai Sri Krishna!

 

In a Democracy who is Supreme, People or Constitution?

 

In a Democracy who is Supreme, People or Constitution?

Per the rationale described below the people are Supreme, and therefore can amend, revise or change the constitution of their country.

  1. No scientist will build a robot that will act totally independently and against the survival of the scientist.
  2. No government allows any person or organization to overthrow the government.
  3. A constitution is made by the people. Therefore, the people can change or amend it as necessary.

Therefore, any democracy whose constitution is meant to provide liberty, justice, and freedom to pursuit happiness for all the citizens cannot and must not allow an anti-democratic or barbaric ideology or religion to be legal in the country.

Most democratic constitutions have incorrectly assumed that all religions are equally good.  The history of Islam and acts of its followers have proven that Islam is not a good religion for peace and protection of freedoms.  Therefore, the non-Islamic (i.e. kefir) democracies need to amend the constitution declaring Islam illegal.  Additionally,

a. There are messages in Koran, Hadith and Sira, that you can find on many authoritative websites, that clearly show that Islam is not a religion for peace and freedom.  See a collation of articles at below link.

https://skanda987.wordpress.com/category/islam/

b.  There is a universal criteria for objectively comparing any two religions to determine which religion has higher potential to cause peace at personal or global level.  See the criteria at below link.

Click to access religions-and-religious-freedom_paper.pdf

I request those who love freedom and want peace to please unite, and with grass root democratic action please amend their country’s constriction declaring Islam illegal. When it is done, fighting terrorism within the country will become very easy and will cost very less in time and money.

Note that in most Muslim countries all religions, except Islam, are illegal.  E. g. in Saudi Arabia you cannot practice Christianity or Hindu or Buddhist faith even within your home.  Islam is against any form of government except Islamic government with Sharia law.  Islam does not treat men and women equally.  Per Sharia law one is guilty as charged; the accused is burdened to prove he/she is innocent.  If a woman is raped in an Islamic country under Sharia, she is required to produce two witnesses in court to prove she is raped.  Per Islam punishment for quitting Islam is death.

– Skanda987

True Face of Islam

True face of Islam

 

True Face Of  Islam And Its Annihilation Hadith Doctrine: How Islam Destroyed The Bamiyan Valley Buddha In Afghanistan And Why Hindus/Christians Cannot Do The Same To Islam?

 

A: Sources:

www.JehadWatch.org – Robert Spencer, Director. David Horowitz – Freedom Center

www.TheReligionofPeace.com – The politically incorrect truth about Islam

www.AnsweringMuslims.com – Christian apologetics responds to Muslim false claims

www.PoliticalIslam.com – Bill Warner website on Islam

www.TheIslamicDilemma.com – Al Fadi, former Wahabbi Muslim, Saudi Arabia

www.WikiIslam.net/wiki/Main_Page – comprehensive and accurate source of information

  1. Islam in action:
  2. Taliban Muslims destroying Bamiyan Buddha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYYBlPWYb7Y
  3. The Hindu genocide that Hindus and the world forgot: http://www.indiatribune.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2105&Itemid=524
  4. Pakistan – Hindu girls rape \ conversion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-TYTrXeAwE

  1. Islam Destroyed Ancient Universities of India

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wF-pqIyI6Q

  1. Pakistan Schools Teach to Hate Non-Muslims

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okkOHfnqQK8 6. Bangladesh Muslims torch Buddhist temples

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/bangladesh-muslims-torch-buddhist-temples-photo-article-1.1172140

  1. Current Islamic event – ISIS:
  2. What is Islam and ISIS – former Muslim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxzOVSMUrGM

  1. ISIS orders ‘Genital Mutilation’ of Infidel Yazidi Women!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCDT2FR5fYE

  1. ISIS to Christians – Convert or Die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mvxwg3YnJ0

 

  1. Evil teachings of Islam:

Quran: Al Taubah (9 – 29):  Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jaziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued.

Quran: Al Anfal (8 – 12):  When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

Quran: Muhammad (47 – 4):  When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly. Then grant them their freedom or take ransom from them, until War shall lay down her burdens.

Quran: Al Haqqah (69 – 30.37):  Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. And then insert him in a chain whereof the length is seventy cubits. Lo! He used not to believe in Allah the tremendous, and urged not on the feeding of the wretched. Therefore hath he no lover hear this day nor any food save filth which none but sinners eat.

Quran: Al Anfal (8 – 65):  “O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you 20 steadfast, they will overcome 200 and if there be of you a 100, they shall overcome a 1000, because the disbelievers are a folk without intelligence.”

Quran: Al Anfal (8 – 67.68):  “It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. You desire the lure of this world and Allah desires for you the hereafter and Allah is Mighty, Wise. Now enjoy what you have won as lawful and good and keep your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is forgiving, merciful.”

Quran: Al Taubah (9 – 123):  O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you and let them find harshness in you and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty.

Quran: Al Dukhan (44 – 40.49): The fruit of the Zaqqum tree shall be the unbelievers’ fruit. Like dregs of oil, like scalding water, it shall simmer in his belly. A voice will cry: “Seize him and drag him into the depths of Hell.” Then pour out scalding water over his head, saying: “Taste this, illustrious and honorable man!” This is the punishment which you have doubted.

Quran: Al Dahr (76 – 1.5):  For the unbelievers, we have prepared chains and fetters and a blazing Fire.

Quran: Al Haj (22 – 19 & 22 – 23):  Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: “Taste the torment of the Conflagration!”

Quran: Al Bayinah (98 – 1.8):  The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.

Quran: Al Bayyinah (98 – 6):  Lo! Those who disbelieve, among the people of the Scripture and idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings.

Quran: Al Ma’idah (5 – 57):  Believers, do not seek the friendship of the infidels and those who were given the Book before you, who have made your religion a jest and a pass time.

Quran: Al Ma’idah (5 – 51):  Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you, seeks their friendship shall become one of their number. Allah does not guide the wrong doers. ”

Quran: Al-Ma’idah (5 – 33):  ‘Execution, or Crucifixion, or the Cutting and Removing Off of hands and feet from OPPOSITE sides, or exile from the land.’ That is their disgrace in this world and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter.”

 

  1. On Muhammad and Quran:
  2. Wafa Sultan: Prophet Muhammad – a rapist, pedophile, anti-Semite & murderer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiIENsa-lCY&feature=g-vrec 2. Who Was Muhammad? – Bakri & Hussain vs. Shamoun & Wood

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUGTZOYeF3U

  1. Muhammad – Pedophile

http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2013/10/was-muhammad-pedophile.html

  1. List_of_Muhammads_Wives_and_Concubines

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Muhammads_Wives_and_Concubines

  1. List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Supported_by_Muhammad

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Supported_by_Muhammad

  1. The Truth about Muhammad [1 of 7] Robert Spencer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKWf7iX6ru0&feature=related
  2. Analyses of Islam:
  3. What West Needs To Know About Islam – William J. Federer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YpJjRzQDIM

  1. Three Stages of Jihad – David Wood http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPLqVL4GHVU 3. Muhammad taught that Muslims must wage war and subjugate unbelievers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CTKhBUZ82M&feature=related 4. Jihad Exposed / Is Islam a religion of peace? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSseTQKdhl8&feature=related 5. Bill Warner on Political Islam, lecture in Simi Hills, CA (part 1 of 9) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqN5A–G0AQ&feature=related
  2. Why We Are Afraid, a 1400 Year Secret, Battles, by Dr Bill Warner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y&hd=1

  1. Robert Spencer about Islam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRYef_BZPe0&hd=1
  2. Islam – Manav samaj ke sath dhokha – Mahender Pal Arya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYDrsAuZLH4

  1. Ibn Warraq exposes Islam on ABN-TV with Robert Spencer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHaVIVjp_Y

  1. The Complete Infidels Guide to Koran – Robert Spencer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpPzBgVLkI4&feature=related

 

ONE SIDED ARTICLE YES, WE KHAN

From: Mohan Natarajan < >

 

To: India’s Media:

 

ONE SIDED ARTICLE YES, WE KHAN

 

I agree with one point – if Hindus had been bad, Muslim population in India would not have grown from 4 crores at the time of partition to the present 24 crores.  If Sagarika discusses the following points, she can caption the next article NO, WE KHANNOT

 

  1. Why the Indian media is keeping quiet over the genocide of Hindus in Pakistan – the Hindu population at the time of partition was around 17% and now it is less than 1%?  Is that goodness of Muslims?

 

  1. Why the Indian media is keeping quiet over the genocide of Hindus in Bangladesh – the Hindu population at the time of partition was around 33% and now it is less than 7%.  Genocide – Bangladesh Human Rights commission had said that 35 million Hindus could not be accounted for.

 

Why not a single Muslim has migrated to Bangladesh or Pakistan, despite the creation of A SEPARATE MUSLIM COUNTRY.

 

  1. Why the media is keeping a deathly silence over the massacre and ethnic cleansing of Hindus in Kashmir?  4 lac pundits are refugees in their own land for the last 25 years – Pundits were the original inhabitants – their lineage goes back to 3000 years and Muslims lineage goes back to less than 1000 years?  IS IT NOT SHAMEFUL THAT NO INDIAN IS TAKING AN INITIATIVE TO TEACH A LESSON TO OMAR AND FAROOK? – the media treats the Abdullahs as sacred guests – IS IT NOT A DOUBLE SHAME?

 

  1. Why the media failed to ask the Muslims – WHY YOU ROASTED ALIVE 59 innocent women and children in Godhra?  Why the media did not publish the names of the victims and their photos?

 

  1. Why the media did not mention that 259 Hindus were killed during

2002 riots?  Why the media did not mention the fact that so many rounds of firing were resorted to, to control the rioting?  A French journalist had mentioned in detail, the steps taken by Modi government to quell the riots.  Why the Indian media is silent on this?

 

  1. Nanavathi commission had submitted the final report on Gujarat riots.  Why the media did not discuss in detail, about the contents of

this report?

 

  1. Why Ambedkar told Gandhi that there must be exchange of Muslim population after partition?  Why Ambedkar correctly felt that Muslims can never co-exist with Hindus?

 

  1. Why Rajedra Prasad told Gandhi that if Muslims are retained in India, they should be disenfranchised?

 

  1. Why Huntington said that Muslims can never co-exist with other religionists?

 

  1. Why Prathipal Singh, Prof. Alberta University, Canada remarked

THAT MUSLIMS WILL ALWAYS BE AN OPPRESSIVE MAJORITY AND A TURBULENT MINORITY?

 

  1. Why Will Durant said that the greatest genocide on earth was the massacre of 100 million Hindus by the invading Muslims, who ruled

India for over 800 years?

 

  1. Why Ambedkar told dalits not to embrace Islam or Christianity? –

He felt that if they do so, they will get denationalized.  They will be only Muslims or Christians – not Indians.

 

  1. When 62% of Indians live on Rs.20 a day and 60% of womenfolk have no access to sanitary napkins and 60% of the Indians have no toilets, where is the question of Muslim poverty – if you assume, all the

20% Muslims are poverty-stricken, still it leaves more than 40% of Hindus poverty-stricken. Why Sachar committee only for Muslims?

 

  1. When Hussain drew porno of Hindu Gods and Goddesses, the entire media, supported Hussain, saying nobody can interfere with his right to freedom of expression. When the greatest secular paper on earth, THE HINDU, by oversight, published a caricature of Prophet, the Muslims protested and THE HINDU, TENDERED A FRONT PAGE

APOLOGY. Why? WILL TOI PUBLISH A SKETCH OF PROPHET?

 

  1. Why Taslima Nasrin’s book LAJJA was banned?

 

  1. Why Rushdie’s Satanic verses was banned?

 

  1. Why the media is supporting KP – because only Hinduism is attacked?

 

  1. Why the media questions the recent Pakistani boat (terror, smuggler, etc.) exploding in the mid sea, as a PR exercise for BJP – that too in front of a Pakistani journalist – is it not sedition?

 

  1. Why Musharraf remarked that Pakistani terrorists need not bleed India.  Indian media is doing a better job (during the Agra summit)

 

  1. Why the media never advises the minorities to join the mainstream?

 

  1. Why the media did not highlight the treatment meted out to Hindus in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Kashmir valley etc.?  How the Kashmir valley was allowed to become Hindu-free?

 

  1. What will happen if Hindus do to Muslims, what they have done to Hindus?

 

  1. Tell me one place in the world where Hindus enjoy minority rights, as minorities enjoy in India.

 

  1. Why the media is not driving home the point that only in India,

Muslims are enjoying democracy for the last 66 years.

 

I am also attaching a news item on Kashmiri pundits:

 

QUOTE

 

25 YEARS OF EXILE

19th January — KASHMIRI HINDU HOLOCAUST DAY

 

 

Every year Kashmiri Hindus all over the country observe 19th of January as ‘Holocaust Day’. It was on this day in 1990 terrorist entrepreneurs under the aegis of JKLF and other allied outfits declared war against the minority Kashmiri Hindu community through hate campaigns, threats, selective killings, bomb attacks etc. This paved way for religious-cleansing of Kashmiri Hindus, the aborigines of Kashmir.

 

 No Kashmiri Hindu who has lived those days in Kashmir and retains some sensitivity can over-come these nightmarish experiences. That is why on this day Kashmiri Hindus hold protests, take out rallies and make resolve to keep reminding the world that this community will never accept its cleansing as fait accompli. Kashmiri Hindus have been great survivors and retain the will to survive in future also.

 

Exile leads to spiritual impoverishment—not only in cultural terms but also in retaining memory of the cleansing act itself. Fear, insecurity, powerful adversary, insensitivity all around etc. tend to induce de politicization and feelings of defeatism.

 

 As the exile gets prolonged the mass of the exiled community comes to regard its own self as the worst enemy. The resultant social distortion of its personality makes it behave in bizarre ways. It seeks to invent virtues in those who imposed genocide on it. Secondly, it begins to advocate its redemption by undermining its own community—its ethos, culture, struggle, leadership and comes to regard assimilation in alien culture and erosion of its identity as its ultimate salvation. This has been true of all exiled groups in history.

 

If living in exile is not accompanied by consciousness of exile, the exiled community would not be able to preserve its identity consciousness for retrieving its homeland. Observance of the ‘Holocaust Day’ addresses this dimension as well, besides keeping political visibility on genocide. A new generation of Kashmiri Hindus born after 1990 have no memories—of being pushed out or the nostalgia of living Kashmiri way of life in the ambience of Kashmir. How do they relate themselves to the moment for retrieval of homeland? Participation in community agendas on ‘Holocaust Day’ and other days affords an opportunity.

 

In 1990 when Kashmiri Hindus were thrown out from Kashmir by Jihadist fascist forces, the displaced community faced total isolation. Regional mainstream parties in Kashmir were hostile because Kashmiri Hindus refused to endorse the parochial religious sub-nationalism espoused by them. Left\Libeof Panun Kashmir are slowly succeeding in breaking this vicious circle of isolation. The forces of history are also playing their role. Travelling of jihadist terrorism to the mainland is making the nation aware that Kashmiri Hindus were only the first victims in the jihadist war. Its larger target was the idea of India itself. Kashmiri Hindus are thus finding new allies.

 

 

It is time the ruling dispensations in Delhi realize that genocide of Kashmiri Hindus needs to be reversed lock, stock and barrel. Political structures in which Kashmiri Hindus lived prior to 1990 only facilitated their complete cleansing from their homeland. They cannot return to the same structure.

 

Kashmiri Hindus look to Narendra Modi with great hope and optimism. It is our strong belief based on ground realities that the separatist campaign in Kashmir is not an issue of local alienation or a legacy of partition. The separatist campaign is part of a war being waged to dismantle India’s northern frontiers and pave a way for the balkanization of the country. The religious cleansing of their community was a consequence of this campaign.

 

They challenged the very concept of Kashmiriyat. Apart from underlining the need to accelerate the process of nation-building and protecting and securing the Himalayan frontiers and eliminating the forces inimical to India and the minorities in the state.

 

The structural reorganization of Jammu & Kashmir in the larger framework of the reorganization of the state is a political necessity. It is GOI’s responsibility to create a new dispensation as demanded by Panun Kashmir in Kashmir, in which there would be no future refoulment. It is to this dispensation the entire displaced community would return to live there on permanent basis. Till then Kashmiri Hindus need to keep up their struggle.

 

 This is the message for the ‘Holocaust Day’.

 

UNQUOTE

 

Can I wait for another article NO WE KHAN-NOT

 

Thanking you,

 

N Mohan

 

Muslims’ Priority for Solving Disagreements

From: Devinder Thakur < >

Ulama Iqbal has explained the role of a good Muslim which is as follows

“Mein tuj ko batata hun taqdeer-e-umam kya hai
Shamsher o snaa  awal taoso rubbab akhir.”
What  it means is that in the list of priority of a Muslim comes the swords and bayonet first and the throne and music last.
==
(In contrast, the Hindus use violence as the last resort for solving disagreements. So, you can figure which religion creates a civilized peace loving humans. – Skanda987)