नवम्बर 1964 का ऐतिहासिक शास्त्रार्थ संस्कृत व हिन्दी भाषा में

From: Vishwapriya Vedanuragi <

सादर नमस्ते !
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यह ऐतिहासिक शास्त्रार्थ संस्कृत व हिन्दी भाषा में आयोजित है |
गोवर्धनपीठाधीश्वर श्री शंकराचार्य वा श्री स्वामी करपात्री जी के साथ आर्य समाज के मूर्धन्य विद्वान पण्डित युधिष्ठिर जी मीमांसक की मध्य |
शास्त्रार्थ का स्थल है :- अमृतसर
शास्त्रार्थ की तिथि है :- 16-17 नवम्बर 1964
वेदवाणी पत्रिका के अप्रैल वर्ष  1965 के अंक में यह शास्त्रार्थ प्रकाशित हुआ था | पृष्ठ १२ से लेकर १८ तक के इस नौ घन्टे चले शास्त्रार्थ में बहुत ही महत्त्वपूर्ण प्रमाण व ज्ञानप्रद बातें  दी गयीं हैं |
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अप्रैल 1965  की वेदवाणी पत्रिका का यह अंक मेरे पूज्य पिताजी व्याकरणाचार्य-निरुक्ताचार्य श्री रामचंद्र जी के संग्रह में उपलब्ध था/है | उल्लेखनीय है की मेरे पूज्य पिताजी हैदराबाद स्वतन्त्रता संग्राम सेनानी थे और पण्डित युधिष्ठिर जी मीमांसक के सहाध्यायी थे |
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रहा नहि जाये , सहा नहि जाये

रहा नहि जाये , सहा नहि जाये

Raha nahi jaye / saha nahi jaye

 

by Karam C Ramrakha

 

As in English.. it will not let me be how would you render saha nahi jaye.

It torments me..

 

Yes, the demise of Hinduism, or the Vedic Faith since Hindu is a race and therefore as my guru P N Oak said Hindu-ism is like saying the Anglican religion is English-ism..

 

Now I am writing my memoirs.. and I wonder if you can find me a literary agent in UK .. I believe UK is still the home of English literature; although if you make a killing in USA you have the largest English readership in the World there.

 

As for India, well, the British invasion was like a Norman Invasion. T

The Indians welcomed the British to some extent because the British (unlike the Moslems) did not kill women and children.. and not to the same extent as the Rajaha and Maharajas (if the General Dyer at Jaliawallah Bagh) practice some rules of velour.

 

P N Oak .. and you can find all his writings on the internet.. said: “While the Rajahs and Maharajas fought one another, they practiced some rules of velour and chivalry..

 

Dear Deva .. as my Guru P N Oak pointed out, Timur in his memoirs gives a perfect description of Delhi and its seven cities.. you can google and find the passage in Timur’s memoirs..then he talks of Hindus assembled at Jama Masjid.. well he uses the Moslem term for it.. But it was the Hindus who had gathered at Delhi’s Jama Masjid to protect themselves.. and today that JM is the largest Mosque in India..

but it is all Vedic.. there is even ( Like the Taj Mahal ) a underground storey in it..

 

This is what Indians in India should fight against.. get all these damn tombs opened and see if there is a corpse in there.. I sent you stuff on Lal Khan’s Tomb.. Humayun ‘s Tomb.. Replete with tombs.. Taj Mahal teeming with 5 tombs.. some unknown..

 

P N Oak was disappointed that no one who really mattered in India believed him.. I was friendly with Jai Sukhlal Hathi who had come to Fiji.. the Indians in India took a “shine” to me, respected me, treated me as a son of India .. Why ? Because I spoke Hindi fluently.. a school teacher in Lucknow wanted me to come and speak to his pupils in Hindi.. So much for Bhojpuri but I can speak Sudh Hindi.

 

So that is the first step.. Why Aurangjeb Road.. Why Akbar Road.. that is where the cleansing should take place.. And a full archeological survey of Taj Mahal (which exists) should be made public .. The Indian government makes a fortune out of just showing the Level 4 .. Whisk them in/whisk them out.. What about the other 6 storeys.. What about the basement that is closed.. What about the sealed chambers .. Not only in Taj Mahal but in Jame Masjid..

 

It is not Rocket Science to tell the world what the edifice really is: how many storeys it has /what parts of it are sealed and why.. Poor Oak-jee went to Supreme Court of India which seems to be able to deal with every problem in India .. like “surplus” rotting grain; and the Supreme Court said Oak-jee had a bee in his bonnet.. What a delicious English phrase; and refused to open the sealed chambers. Not whimper from the populace at this outrageous ruling.

 

So the drama or should I call it narak of invasion/ denigration/ decimation of a country from 6 A.D. continues.. An invasion which seeks to wipe put the past.. Christian missionaries fuelled with money, men and munitions converting tribals who then turn into Naxalites..

 

I went to India in 1967, 1971 and 1975, and like Oak jee I found a stone wall when I spoke to Ancient India.. of the so called false tombs.. Let’s take a simple matter. Ibrahim Lodhi lived in a palace in Agra.. Where is that Palace today?

Babur lived in a palace in Agra.. that Palace as Oak jee proves in his writings was/is the Taj Mahal..even mentioned in Babur’s Memoirs .. Read Oak jee on his book on the Taj Mahal.. or Aurangject demolishing a temple and building a Mosque on it.. or Atalya Devi Mosque.. with its forest of pillars inside.. a mosque as Oak jee points out needs an open plan and space.. Yes, as Michener points out the forest of pillars in far off Spain .. And finally the arrogance of Sancta Sophia Mosque..

 

When I wrote to the Eminent Historian Geoffrey Blainey about the Taj Mahal,he did not comment on what I wrote but merely brushed me aside saying “More research is needed” .That when Shah Jahan’s own memoirs admit the TM was Rajah Jai Singh’s palace. Why when 90% of the interior of the Taj Mahal is sealed off and unknown to the general public? .. Why when Mumtaz or Arjum and Zamano Begum died in Burhanpur and is buried there.. Google. Was Mumtoz buried in the Taj Mahal?.. Again some poor Rajah’s palace on the banks of the Tapti River has been commandeered as tomb.. And look at her tomb produced in Begley & Desai.. It was Oakjee who paid a photographer to take photos of the palace and the grave .. And the grave of the Mumtaz in Burhanpur 600 miles aways from Agra is intact.. So how does the deception and the muth go? Well after six months she was interred.. And then carried 600 miles to Agra.. And while Sj is building his Taj Mahal and it takes him 22 years,  the lady is buried in the site.. on a building site.. (Not like Lenin Tomb?) And then finally she is dug out of the site and buried in the TM.. No, Sir, there is no date that that happened.. No one knows.. And Oakjee has said there is no body in the so called grave.  And Professor Marvin H Mills has proven that the entire TM is a Hindu temple

 

Yes, I had a tussle with William Dalrymple, that anti Hindu son of a bitch still parading in India and calling it a home.. And he referred me to Ebba Koch.. She actually wrote to me and said I have seen the Taj Mahal every aspect of it and I wrote back .. what about the sealed chambers?.. Nothing about it in your complete Taj Mahal book, and she is silent but she is no longer in the news.

Likewise Catherine Asher of the University of Minnesota who attacked P N Oak in the Cambridge History .. all did. Dalrymple, Ebba Koch and Asher .. has gone silent.

 

Finally Taj Mahal has 5 tombs, and according to the book by Begley & Desai there is one with an unidentified corpse ( Toba! Toba!) And Begley & Desai confirm that the annals of the period do not refer to Mumtaz Mahal..

 

How can MumtaZ Mahal transfer to MumtaZ Mahaj or even Taj Mahal?.. When you read the history of the Moslems in India none shorten their names.. So Taj Mahal (Crown Palace which is what it is) translates to and is derived from MumtaZ Mahal..

 

Arise, Awake and Stop Not till the goal is reached.

 

Karam C. Ramrakha

Remembering India’s Forgotten Holocaust

rom: Mohan Natarajan < >

Dear all,

An interesting posting from another group.  Please disseminate.

N Mohan

Remembering India’s Forgotten Holocaust

Rakesh Krishnan Simha

June 13, 2014

[British policies killed nearly 4 million Indians in the 1943-44 Bengal Famine] 

 The Bengal Famine of 1943-44 must rank as the greatest disaster in the subcontinent in the 20th century.

Nearly 4 million Indians died because of an artificial famine created by the British government, and yet it gets little more than a passing mention in Indian history books.

What is remarkable about the scale of the disaster is its time span. World War II was at its peak and the Germans were rampaging across Europe, targeting Jews, Slavs and the Roma for extermination.

It took Adolf Hitler and his Nazi cohorts 12 years to round up and murder 6 million Jews, but their Teutonic cousins, the British, managed to kill almost 4 million Indians in just over a year, with Prime Minister Winston Churchill cheering from the sidelines.

Australian biochemist Dr. Gideon Polya has called the Bengal Famine a “manmade holocaust” because Churchill’s policies were directly responsible for the disaster.

Bengal had a bountiful harvest in 1942, but the British started diverting vast quantities of food grain from India to Britain, contributing to a massive food shortage in the areas comprising present-day West Bengal, Odisha, Bihar and Bangladesh.

Author Madhusree Mukerjee tracked down some of the survivors and paints a chilling picture of the effects of hunger and deprivation.

In Churchill’s Secret War, she writes: “Parents dumped their starving children into rivers and wells. Many took their lives by throwing themselves in front of trains. Starving people begged for the starchy water in which rice had been boiled. Children ate leaves and vines, yam stems and grass. People were too weak even to cremate their loved ones.”

“No one had the strength to perform rites,” a survivor tells Mukerjee. “Dogs and jackals feasted on piles of dead bodies in Bengal’s villages.”

The ones who got away were men who migrated to Calcutta for jobs and women who turned to prostitution to feed their families. “Mothers had turned into murderers, village belles into whores, fathers into traffickers of daughters,” writes Mukerjee.

Mani Bhaumik, the first to get a PhD from the IITs and whose invention of excimer surgery enabled Lasik eye surgery, has the famine etched in his memory. His grandmother starved to death because she used to give him a portion of her food.

By 1943 hordes of starving people were flooding into Calcutta, most dying on the streets. The sight of well-fed white British soldiers amidst this apocalyptic landscape was “the final judgment on British rule in India”, said the Anglophile Jawaharlal Nehru.

Churchill could easily have prevented the famine. Even a few shipments of food grain would have helped, but the British prime minister adamantly turned down appeals from two successive Viceroys, his own Secretary of State for India and even the President of the US.

Subhas Chandra Bose, who was then fighting on the side of the Axis forces, offered to send rice from Myanmar, but the British censors did not even allow his offer to be reported.

Churchill was totally remorseless in diverting food to the British troops and Greek civilians. To him, “the starvation of anyhow underfed Bengalis (was) less serious than sturdy Greeks”, a sentiment with which Secretary of State for India and Burma, Leopold Amery, concurred.

Amery was an arch-colonialist and yet he denounced Churchill’s “Hitler-like attitude”.

Urgently beseeched by Amery and the then Viceroy Archibald Wavell to release food stocks for India, Churchill responded with a telegram asking why Gandhi hadn’t died yet.

Wavell informed London that the famine “was one of the greatest disasters that has befallen any people under British rule”. He said when Holland needs food, “ships will of course be available, quite a different answer to the one we get whenever we ask for ships to bring food to India”.

Churchill’s excuse — currently being peddled by his family and supporters — was Britain could not spare the ships to transport emergency supplies, but Mukerjee has unearthed documents that challenge his claim.

She cites official records that reveal ships carrying grain from Australia bypassed India on their way to the Mediterranean.

Churchill’s hostility toward Indians has long been documented. At a War Cabinet meeting, he blamed the Indians themselves for the famine, saying they “breed like rabbits”. His attitude toward Indians may be summed up in his words to Amery:

“I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion.”

On another occasion, he insisted they were “the beastliest people in the world next to the Germans”.

According to Mukerjee, “Churchill’s attitude toward India was quite extreme, and he hated Indians, mainly because he knew India couldn’t be held for very long.”

She writes in The Huffington Post, “Churchill regarded wheat as too precious a food to expend on non-whites, let alone on recalcitrant subjects who were demanding independence from the British Empire. He preferred to stockpile the grain to feed Europeans after the war was over.”

 In October 1943, at the peak of the famine, Churchill said at a lavish banquet to mark Wavell’s appointment: “When we look back over the course of years, we see one part of the world’s surface where there has been no war for three generations. Famines have passed away — until the horrors of war and the dislocations of war have given us a taste of them again — and pestilence has gone… This episode in Indian history will surely become the Golden Age as time passes, when the British gave them peace and order, and there was justice for the poor, and all men were shielded from outside dangers.”

Churchill was not only a racist but also a liar.

A history of holocausts

To be sure, Churchill’s policy towards famine-stricken Bengal wasn’t any different from earlier British conduct in India.

In Late Victorian Holocausts, Mike Davis points out that here were 31 serious famines in 120 years of British rule compared with 17 in the 2,000 years before British rule.

In his book, Davis tells the story of the famines that killed up to 29 million Indians.

These people were, he says, murdered by British State policy. 

In 1876, when drought destituted the farmers of the Deccan plateau, there was a net surplus of rice and wheat in India.

But the Viceroy, Robert Bulwer-Lytton, insisted that nothing should prevent their export to England.

In 1877 and 1878, at the height of the famine, grain merchants exported record quantities of grain. As the peasants began to starve, government officials were ordered “to discourage relief works in every possible way”.

The only relief permitted in most districts was hard labor, from which anyone in an advanced state of starvation was turned away.

Within these labor camps, the workers were given less food than the Jewish inmates of Buchenwald, the Nazi concentration camp of World War II.

Even as millions died, Lytton ignored all efforts to alleviate the suffering of millions of peasants in the Madras region and concentrated on preparing for Queen Victoria’s investiture as Empress of India. The highlight of the celebrations was a week-long feast at which 68,000 dignitaries heard her promise the nation “happiness, prosperity and welfare”.

In 1901, The Lancet estimated that at least 19 million Indians had died in western India during the famine of the 1890s. The death toll was so high because the British refused to implement famine relief. Davis says life expectancy in India fell by 20 percent between 1872 and 1921.

 So it’s hardly surprising that Hitler’s favorite film was The Lives of a Bengal Lancer, which showed a handful of Britons holding a continent in thrall. The Nazi leader told the then British Foreign Secretary Edward Wood (Earl of Halifax) that it was one of his favorite films because “that was how a superior race must behave and the film was compulsory viewing for the SS (Schutz-Staffel, the Nazi ‘protection squadron’)”.

 Crime and consequences

While Britain has offered apologies to other nations, such as Kenya for the Mau Mau massacre, India continues to have such genocides swept under the carpet. Other nationalities have set a good example for us. Israel, for instance, cannot forget the Holocaust; neither will it let others, least of all the Germans. Germany continues to dole out hundreds of millions of dollars in cash and arms aid to Israel.

 Armenia cannot forget the Great Crime — the systematic massacre of 1.8 million Armenians by the Turks during World War I.

The Poles cannot forget Joseph Stalin’s Katyn massacre.

The Chinese want a clear apology and reparations from the Japanese for at least 40,000 killed and raped in Nanking during World War II.

And then there is the bizarre case of the Ukrainians, who like to call a famine caused by Stalin’s economic policies as genocide, which it clearly was not. They even have a word for it: Holodomor.

And yet India alone refuses to ask for reparations, let alone an apology.

Could it be because the British were the last in a long list of invaders, so why bother with an England suffering from post-imperial depression? 

Or is it because India’s English-speaking elites feel beholden to the British? 

Or are we simply a nation condemned to repeating our historical mistakes? 

Perhaps we forgive too easily.

But forgiveness is different from forgetting, which is what Indians are guilty of. It is an insult to the memory of millions of Indians whose lives were snuffed out in artificial famines.

British attitudes towards Indians have to be seen in the backdrop of India’s contribution to the Allied war campaign. 

By 1943, more than 2.5 million Indian soldiers were fighting alongside the Allies in Europe, Africa and Southeast Asia. Vast quantities of arms, ammunition and raw materials sourced from across the country were shipped to Europe at no cost to Britain.

Britain’s debt to India is too great to be ignored by either nation. 

According to Cambridge University historians Tim Harper and Christopher Bayley, “It was Indian soldiers, civilian laborers and businessmen who made possible the victory of 1945. Their price was the rapid independence of India.”

 There is not enough wealth in all of Europe to compensate India for 250 years of colonial loot. 

Forget the money, do the British at least have the grace to offer an apology? 

Or will they, like Churchill, continue to delude themselves that English rule was India’s “Golden Age”?

letters@tehelka.com

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RELATED PLEASE:

 “The Great Holocaust of Bengal” Author – Anil Chawla

http://www.samarthbharat.com/bengalholocaust.htm

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BOOK REVIEW :

“The Case For India”  

Will Durant – [1930]

http://reflectionsvvk.blogspot.in/2012/02/book-revew-case-for-india-will-durant.html

Indian History Resources

From: Satish Oberoi < >

 

Indian History Resources

This compilation consists of historical records made by the Islamic invaders of their plunder of India. They brought their own historians and scribes to record their exploits as a hallmark of their accomplishments. In other words, they were proud of doing this – similar to ISIS today proudly wanting the world to know of their atrocities.

Infinity Foundation got this compilation done by a post-doc we hired in the 1990s. Later the same archive material has been published by Voice of India, I believe.

Just a reference as FYI.