Article 370 of India constitution can be repealed

Article 370 of India constitution can be repealed
DC | K.N. Bhat | June 07, 2014, 06.06 am IST

Article 370 – Special status to the state of Jammu & Kashmir

“Mark my words and save this tweet — long after Modi government is a distant memory either J&K won’t be part of India or Article 370 will still exist,” Omar Abdullah, the Chief Minister of India’s 15th state, tweeted in his response to a minister’s statement on the special status accorded to Jammu and Kashmir.

Audacity unlimited! And ignorance unbounded! The Chief Minister appears to be under the wrong impression that he can give talaaq and separate Jammu and Kashmir from India at will.

According to the Omar school of thought, Article 370 of the Constitution of India cannot be touched except with the consent of the J&K Assembly. And if that Article is abrogated, the status of J&K before accession would automatically stand restored. Should that mean that Dr. Karan Singh, son of the last ruler of Kashmir, will be recognized as the ruler of J&K, and everything that happened after the accession would be void? No, that may not be acceptable.

On the eve of India and Pakistan becoming separate dominions, Indian Independence Act 1947, read with the Government of India Act 1935, gave the rajas and maharajas of British India three options: become part of India, become a part of Pakistan or remain independent states. Within the specified period — between August 15 and October 6, 1947 — 560-plus erstwhile rulers signed documents with the title “Instrument of Accession”, and thereby agreed to become part of the dominion of India. This was to be followed by instruments of merger, thereby becoming part of India and ending the original identity of the princely state — many princes executed both the documents one after the other, while some had hesitation to sign the merger treaty.

The process of merger in respect of all except J&K was completed in October 1949. At the insistence of Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel, the agreement to pay compensation to the princes for merging with India — the Privy Purse — was given a constitutional status through the introduction of Article 291. The ruler of Jammu and Kashmir wanted to remain independent, but when the Pakistanis were about to capture his kingdom, the raja in distress executed the Instrument of Accession on October 26, 1947 — the offer was accepted by Governor- General Lord Mountbatten the very next day with a gratuitous condition that after peace returned to the state, the people’s wish would be ascertained on the issue of accession. This was just a wish in view of the belated accession, not a precondition for accession authorized by law.

The Instruments of Accession were cyclostyled documents — the one signed by Raja Hari Singh was no different from the one signed by, say, Maharaja of Mysore. So much so the Kashmir king’s impressive string of titles — Shriman Inder Mahender Rajrajeswar Maharajadhiraj Shri Hari Singhji, Jammu and Kashmir Naresh Tatha Tibbetadi Deshadhipathi, Ruler of Jammu and Kashmir — had to be squeezed into the long enough blanks allotted in the specified form. So the document executed by Raja Hari Singh was just another Instrument of Accession with no special concessions or reservations.
In normal circumstances, merger of J&K with India should have taken place before October end, but a brilliant self-goal scored by Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru, in the form of a complaint to the UNO and the consequent UN intervention, prevented it. The merger had to be postponed until the dispute was settled — and that dispute is still pending.

Again, at the insistence of Nehru, Article 370, according special status to J&K, was added at the far end of the deliberations of the Constituent Assembly. B.R. Ambedkar openly opposed the idea and refused to take part in drafting Article 370, while other members of the Constituent Assembly, according to Gopalasway, a member of the Constituent Assembly, condescended to this “gift from Nehru to his friend Sheikh Abdullah” in the firm belief that this was a temporary measure.
Recall the Privy Purse case. Indira Gandhi, following the split in the Congress, resorted to measures intended to project her as the only champion of the poor. One such gimmick was abolition of Privy Purse in 1970 — at that time the total burden on the exchequer on this account was about Rs 4 crore per year. A blatant breach of a constitutional obligation and of a solemn promise was sought to be committed by deleting Article 291.

But the move was defeated by one vote in the Rajya Sabha. Bitterly bitten by this humiliation, the Indira government got a presidential notification issued, derecognizing the princes. That notification was struck down by the Supreme Court (1971). Soon thereafter, equipped with the needed numerical strength in Parliament, the 21st Amendment Act was passed. It was the shortest amendment reading, “Article 291 be deleted”. The Amendment Act was also challenged. However, the Supreme Court upheld the abolition of Privy Purse by deleting Article 291 after observing that Article 368 permits such an amendment. “We are concerned only with the legality not morality,” said the court (1983).

Arguments on the scope and interpretation of Article 370 may end before the Supreme Court of India, or may be not if the issue assumes international color. But what is not in doubt is that the Indian Parliament can amend the Indian Constitution even by deleting Article 370.

The amending power under Article 368 is plenary and in exercise of it Parliament can simply delete Article 370. Article 368(1) reads: “Notwithstanding anything contained in this Constitution, Parliament may in exercise of its constituent power amend by way of addition, variation or repeal any provision of this Constitution in accordance with the procedure laid down in this Article.”

So long as the basic structure of the Constitution is not altered, Parliament’s amending power is unlimited — what is the Constitution’s basic structure is not defined, but a temporary provision like Article 370 cannot be part of it. No agreement or treaty can restrict the scope of this constitutional provision.
Once Article 370 stands repealed, the Instrument of Accession may become operational to the extent that it is consistent with the Constitution — the proclaimed allegiance to the Government of India Act 1935 would extend to its successor, the Constitution of India.

The assertion by any citizen that J&K or any other state is not governed by the Indian Constitution may amount to an act of sedition. The seemingly unending Kashmir problem was born out of a single folly of a single man — Nehru stopping Sardar Patel from dealing with Kashmir. Through a series of more such follies, a Frankenstein of a state has been created that dares the nation even to discuss an issue relating to it. With the passage of time the problem may only get aggravated. What should be done? To begin with, try to win the co-operation of the Kashmiri politicians and MPs from the rest of India to suitably amend and attenuate Article 370; failing this repeal it. Hopefully, well before the Modi government is forgotten, the Kashmiri people would have forgotten Article 370.

The writer is a senior advocate of the Supreme Court and former additional solicitor-general of India.
He can be reached at knbhat1@gmail.com
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P. Deivamuthu’s Letter to PM Modi

My Letter to PM on Simple ways to Hinduise Bharat
P. Deivamuthu, Editor, Hindu Voice
(This letter was sent by Speed Post on 28th May 2014)

(The inserts in italics are by Skanda987.)

27th May 2014

Shri Narendra Modi Ji
Prime Minister of India
Gujarat Bhavan
New Delhi 110001

Dear Prime Minister, Modiji, Pranaam.

Sub: Simple ways to Hinduise Bharat

At the outset, let me congratulate you for leading the BJP to a grand victory, and becoming the first non-Congress Prime Minister of our nation with a clear majority. Your oath taking ceremony on 26th May was indeed grandeur, with the presence of many Hindu saints and RSS leaders.

Hindu Voice, a Monthly in English and Hindi, is not unknown to you. Directorate of Information, Govt. of Gujarat, is a Life Member of Hindu Voice. Copies are also posted to you personally. You have also conveyed your Best Wishes to Hindu Voice, many years ago, vide your letter dated 7th March 2003.

Hindu Voice has special relationship with Gujarat. It was launched in April 2002, in memory of the 58 Karsevaks burnt alive at Godhra on 27th Feb. 2002. Hindu Voice has been consistently campaigning for making you the PM candidate. In fact, in my editorial in Hindu Voice as early as June 2008, I had pleaded that you be declared as the PM candidate for the 2009 parliamentary election itself. I am happy that this has happened in 2014 and because of that we have got our Second Independence.

As the Editor of Hindu Voice, I have been propagating that Hindutva (Hinduism) is Rashtriyatuva (Nationalism), and Hindutva is the only unifying factor of all Indians. Hindutva encompasses everything humanity stands for, including secularism and democracy. Hindutva is not divisive; it is inclusive. I am sure that most of our Muslim and Christian brothers too will agree on this fact. By electing BJP and its allies overwhelmingly, the people have confirmed my stand. Therefore, more emphasis should be placed on Hindutva, so that our unity is further strengthened, and secularism and democracy thrive.
(Secularism is a European medicine against Christianity. The Hindu dharma is inherently tolerant of all the tolerant faiths. Therefore ti does not need secularism. Islaam /Koran/Sharia is against a democratic government. Therefore,those Muslims who want to live in democratic nation, need to give up Islaam. – Skanda987)

This will also be in accordance with our constitution. Our constitution bears the pictures of Sri Ram, Sri Krishna, Lord Natraj, Lord Mahavir, Lord Bhuddha, Vedic Yajna, Kurukshetra, Geeta Upadesh, Lanka Vijay and Sita Uddhar, etc. etc. Therefore, it is a Hindu Constitution.
(It has some anti-Hindu lines. – Skanda987)

Our Constitution Makers too were well aware that the identity of our Nation is Hindu. Vedic slogans like ‘Satyameva Jayate’, ‘Satyam, Shivan, Sundaram’, ‘Dharma-Chakra-Pravartana’, etc. were used by various Govt. Depts. Because it is a Hindu Nation, they felt, India was, is and will always remain ‘secular’. Hence, they never felt the need for the word ‘secular’ in the preamble to our Constitution (which was inserted by Smt. Indira Gandhi during Emergency). Hindus, by nature, are secular, and Hinduism is perforce secularism.
Here are a few more proofs that India is a Hindu nation – legally, spiritually and culturally. Indian Satellites are named Aryabhata, Baskara, Rohini, etc. Our missiles are named Agni, Prithvi, Akash, etc. Our war ships are named INS Vikrant, Viraat, Vikramatitya, Godavari, Ganga, Brahmaputra, Shivalik, Abhay, Sarayu, Sukanya, Varuna, Tarangini, etc. Our Submarines are named Sindhudhvaj, Sindhughosh, Sindhuratna, etc. Our battle tanks are named Arjun, Bhishma, Ajeya, etc. All the above names are associated with Hindu culture. If one enters into the BARC Complex at Trombay (Mumbai), one is pleasantly surprised to find that all the multi-story buildings there are named Aruna, Varun, Godavari, Kaveri, Ganga, Yamuna, Saraswati, Prayag, Narmada, etc. – all our sacred rivers.

However, the Nehruvian Congress had not only tried to hide these Hindu spiritual and cultural elements in our constitution, but had tried to drain the nation of its spiritualism and culture. It was trying to detach this nation from its Hindu roots and make India into an adharmic (dharma-nirpeksh) state. Hence it had spread a canard that Hinduism is communal and only minorities are secular, which led to divisiveness in the society. This anomaly has to be set right and the nation has to be brought to its Hindu moorings, which is its soul.

The anti-Vedic names of monuments, cities, and streets in Hindusan need to be replaced with Vedic names. Some monuments, e.g. Kutub Minar is a monument of humiliation or reminder of unhappy defeat. Such monuments need to be removed or re-converted o Vedic glory.

Now that you have made India Congress-free and there is a radically transformed environment in the nation, there needs to be a paradigm shift in your Govt.’s approach towards ‘secularism’ and ‘communalism’, in letter and spirit. Your Govt. should recognize the spiritual and cultural sentiments of the people and our Constitution Makers, and hinduise Bharat. Muslims and Christians need not fear. There will be complete religious freedom in a Hinduised Bharat, but their loyalty to Bharat should be beyond doubt. (Islaam does not allow Muslims to be loyal to anything except Islaam. – Skanda987)

While development and good governance is important, which I am sure you will provide, the need for national integration is of paramount importance. Going to a Temple, Mosque or Church is a personal choice, but everyone should be absolutely loyal to Mother India. We have had enough of Nehruvian Secularism and Macaulayism. Now, let the country get back to its civilizational roots. Hence, you should take the following steps to Hinduise Bharat.

Your Govt. should proclaim and propagate that
(a) India was, is and will be a Hindu nation, citing the above examples, (b) Hindutva (Hinduism) is Nationalism (Rashtriyatva) and not communalism, as the Nehruvian Congress has made us to believe;
(c) Hinduism is a Way of Life, as confirmed by our Supreme Court, and is not against any religion;
(The Vedic dharma is universal religion for mankind. That is why it is called dharma. It is against any asuric or barbaric or ideology or demoniac religion. – Skanda987)
(d) any act done in the name of Hinduism is not communal; It is just national, and conforms to our constitution, and
(e) the survival of secularism and democracy, and the unity and integrity of India is directly related to the preservation and growth of Hinduism.
(Becaue the Vedic dharma is tolerant of all the tolerant faiths, Bharat needs to be made a Hindu nation – Hindustan. – Skand987)

The following simple methods will make India a truly Hindu nation – in other words more secular and democratic – without in any way altering the basic features of our Constitution.

1. Print new currency notes and coins with the picture of “Maa Laxmi”, replacing Mahatma Gandhi’s picture. Hindus identify money with Devi Laxmi. So, befitting that sentiment, it is natural that Maa Laxmi’s picture should appear on all currency notes and coins. Withdraw all old notes.

The UPA Govt. had brought out coins embossing the picture of Sister Alphonsa, Cross, Vaishnav Devi. etc. So there is no legality involved in putting the picture of Maa Laxmi on currency notes. This will also solve the black money problem within the country. Also, the picture of Devi Laxmi will deter ISI from printing counterfeit notes in Pakistan.

2. Make the slogans ‘Bharat Mata Ki Jai’ and ‘Vande Mataram’ compulsory for every citizen, to ensure their absolute loyalty to India – Indian first and Hindu, Muslim, Christian later. These were the slogans which kindled nationalist feelings amongst Indians and brought them together during our freedom movement. They unite all Indians, irrespective of their caste, creed, language, religion and region.

At the time of partition, Babasaheb Ambedkar desired that there should be exchange of population – all Muslims must be sent to Pakistan – as Dr. Ambedkar knew that Islam and democracy cannot co-exist. Dr. Rajendra Prasad desired that those Muslims who stayed back must be disenfranchised – no voting rights for Muslims. While Babasaheb’s suggestions are time-barred, we can implement Dr. Rajendra Prasad’s suggestions and weed out those who say ‘I am a Muslim/Christian first, Indian later’. Any one refusing to say ‘Bharat Mata Ki Jai’ and ‘Vande Mataram’ should be disenfranchised. The application form to enroll new voters should carry an undertaking to this effect. Also, these slogans should be made compulsory for every Govt. employee.

3. Make the singing of our National Anthem – Jana Gana Mana,
(Replace jana gana mana with vande maataram. Rationale: jana gana mana was written to praise the England’s king or queen. – Skanda987.)
and ending it with ‘Bharat Mata Ki Jai’ and ‘Vande Mataram’ – compulsory for all candidates at the time of filing their nomination papers for MPs and MLAs. If anyone fails or refuses to sing Jana Gana Mana, ending it with ‘Bharat Mata Ki Jai’ and ‘Vande Mataram’, his nomination should be rejected. Otherwise, we cannot stop a Pervez Musharrafs, Dawood Ibrahims or an Abu Salims from fighting (standing for) elections, and may even become the PM.

4. Similarly, at the time of taking oath by MLAs, MPs, Ministers, CMs, PM, and President, they should say at the end ‘Bharat Mata Ki Jai’ and ‘Vande Mataram’. Refusing to say so will disqualify him from holding that position.

Islaam does not allow it. Islaam is against any democratic Gov. Therefore Islaam needs to be purged out of any democratic country. One cannot hold on to Islaam and take such a Vedic oath.

5. Ban the word ‘minority’. Nowhere in the world are the citizens divided into ‘minority’ and ‘majority’ on the basis of religion. (Are Hindus/Muslims settled in USA, UK, Canada, etc. called minorities there? No.) Our Constitution too prohibits the word ‘Religious minority’. In fact, it was a distortion by our Nehruvian Congress with vote bank consideration. We are all Indians, with equal rights and duties. Going to a temple, mosque or church is one’s personal choice.

Going to mosques and madressas means learning to do jihad against the Hindus, and learning Arab nationalism. So, it works against the interests of the Vedic nation.

6. This will naturally bring us (our attention) to the ‘National Minority Commission Act of 1992’ – an act meant to divide the Indian society. This act itself is unconstitutional. It ultra vires Article 15 (1) of our constitution. (“The State shall not discriminate against any citizen on grounds only of religion, race, caste, sex, and place of birth or any of them”). It goes without saying that the appointment of the Sachchar Committee is also unconstitutional.

7. Bring in an “Endangered Civilization Protection Act” to save Sanatan Hindu Dharm, Hindu civilization, Hindu practices, Hindu believes, Hindu scriptures, our heritage, culture and traditions, and to stop conversion.

(Instead, by the majority grass-root action, make Bharat a Vedic state – Hindusan – where anti-Vedic ideologies and religions will be illegal. Then the various Vedic sampadayas need to begin spreading dharma to interested people. When done effectively, dharma will spread. Dharma glaani among the Hindus need to be removed, but not by any external forces. – Skanda987)

8. Give Moral Policing Powers to some of our Hindu Organizations. To protect villagers from Maoists, Salva Judum was created in Chttisgarh. Similarly, to protect and preserve Hindu Dharma, Beliefs, practices, scriptures, culture, tradition, etc. moral/cultural policing rights should be given to selected Hindu Organizations and Ashrams. Their members, working in tandem with the local police, should have the power to stop any one from demeaning or tarnishing Hindu Gods, Hindu Way of Life, Hindu culture, Hindu scriptures, etc., arrest them and hand them over to the Police for further action. They can also identify infiltrators and hand them over to the police for deportation.
(A way to do this produce well trained 2 million Vedic preachres and pujaaris. Then deploy 2 each in every 1 million villages of Bharat. Their mission: To practice dharma correctly, to teach others how to practice it correctly, to engage the Vedics in Hindu programs (satsang, pujaa, havan, sankirtan, etc.; and to debate with those who come to convert Hindus. – Skanda987)

9. Make the lighting of our traditional lamp at every Govt. function compulsory. Any one refusing to light the lamp must be disqualified. Similarly, all Govt. offices should perform “Satyanarayan Pooja”, once in a year. It is purely scientific as Yagna purifies the atmosphere.
(I would say have discourse on Bhagvad Gita instead, by well qualified aacharyas or swamis. – Skanda987)

10. Bring a new law to declare anyone as persona non grata who intentionally – insults our National Anthem; refuses to say ‘Bharat Mata Ki Jai’ and ‘Vande Mataram’; shouts Pakistan Jindabad; insults our security forces; burns our National flag; spews venom in the name of religion and castes; talks of dividing India; supports giving away any part of India; talks of human rights for terrorists; etc. Their voting rights and fundamental rights must be forfeited, and they be allowed to just subsist.

11. All the criminals in jail, especially those arrested for terrorist activities, must be forced to do Yoga for one hour every day morning. They must also be given religious discourse every day evening for two hours, by different Hindu sadhus. This will reform 80% of the criminals. (They must be served only vegetarian foods. No cell phones for them. –Skanda987)

12. Remove all religious subsidy. No Islamic country gives subsidy to Haj. Giving subsidy to Haj and Jerusalem is against secularism. Also scrap all reservations on religious basis. It is against Islaam also.)

13. Bring in Uniform Civil Code, with provisions that anyone having more than one wife or more than three children will be debarred from standing for election.
(No Sharia law in the desh. No one should be guilty until proven in court. Burden to prove a defendant is guilty should be on the plaintiff. – Skanda987)

14. Ban Slaughter of Cow and its progeny, and give incentive to Cow Rearing (Go Paalan). When a cow bears a calf, the person who maintains the cow should be given a lump sum as incentive.

(No national holiday for any anti-Vedic religion or ideology. –Skanda987)

15. Give incentive to Ved Pathshalas and Sanskrit learning. Schools teaching Sanskrit and students learning Sanskrit should be given incentive. Incentive being given to Arab learning should be withdrawn. We do not want to spread Arab culture in India.
(The media should use pure Hindi or pure any language. No khichri. –Skanda987)

16. Pave the way for building a magnificent Ram Temple in Ayodhya, and also for reconstructing temples in Mathura and Kashi.

(Bharat will have lasting peace when the current Muslims of Bharat (after quitting Islaam) will help build Ram Mandir back where it was; and when there will not be riots if Koran is buried in the Vedic land. Remember that when Manu Smriti was buried around 1947 time, there was no protect or riot by the Hindus. –Skanda987)

17. Vedic slogans like ‘Satyameva Jayate’, ‘Satyam, Shivan, Sundaram’, ‘Dharma-Chakra-Pravartana’, etc. must be restored with its original glory. Every govt. stationery should carry the slogan ‘Satyameva Jayate’. DD logo should include ‘Satyam, Shivan, Sundaram’, and the Chair of Lok Sabha speaker should bear ‘Dharma-Chakra-Pravartana’. All these Vedic slogans were removed by the Nehruvian Congress.

18. Review the laws governing (restricting) Hindus, which tries to destroy Hindu family institution. For example, the Domestic Violence Act, 2005, trivializes Hindu marriages as Civil Contracts and promotes live-in relationship. It also ridicules the spiritual and cultural significance and sacredness of Hindu marriages.
(This is like Islamic Muthaa low. Muthaa means temporary marriage for sex. It is anti-Vedic. and is adharma. – Skanda987)
We worship women as goddesses – Laxmi, Saraswati and Durga – and also Ardha-nareeshwar for giving half of his body to his spouse. Such a spiritualism and culture cannot be allowed to be hijacked in the name of women empowerment.

19. Shiv Sena supremo late Balasaheb Thackrey and Shri Subhash Desai (present MLA, Goregaon, Mumbai) were debarred from voting for six years, for asking for votes in the name of Hindutva. So then why no Muslim or Christian is similarly debarred for asking for votes in the name of Allah and Jesus Christ, which they wantonly do? This must be reversed. Asking for votes in the name of Hindutva or Hinduism is no offence, as it is a way of Life according to our Supreme Court. Conversely (Therefore), make asking for votes in the name of Allah and Jesus Christ an offence.

20. Ban the use of Loudspeaker in Mosques and Churches. In a secular country claiming to respect all religions, shouting publicly that ‘There is no God except Allah’ and ‘Jesus is the only Saviour’ is preposterous. (These two religions are anti-Vedic and are invaded in Bharat. They do not belong in Bharat. –Skanda987)

21. Your Gov’t should free Hindu Mandirs from govt. control. Also the Govt. should provide basic facilities at all Hindu Pilgrimage sites and River Ghats (such as Wash rooms, bathrooms, change rooms, etc.)
(See an article at below link describing the kind of temles we need.
https://skanda987.wordpress.com/2011/07/05/the-kind-of-temples-the-hindus-need-2/ )

22. Change the name of our Motherland to ‘Bharat’ by removing the ambiguity in the Constitution and the word ‘India’. Also, change names of all places and roads – like Allahabad, Aurangabad, Ahmedabad, Aurangzeb Road, St. Xavier Road, etc. – with that of our freedom fighters.

23. Change the weekly holidays from Sunday to Monday or Tuesday. {The timing of presenting Indian budget in parliament was changed from 5.30 pm (which was continued by the Nehruvian Congress, to suit Britishers) to 11.00 am by the NDA Govt.}.

24. Change the school uniform of girl students – from Skirts (meant for Christian nuns) to Salvar-Kamis with Thuppatta.

After winning the elections, your visiting Kashi and performing pooja and Ganga Aarthi there (on 17th May) proudly sporting the sacred ash and tilak on your forehead, in the full glare of the TV is indeed a bold message to the nation that you are a Hindu Nationalist. Your bowing before parliament and placing your forehead on its steps (on 20th May), exactly like Hindu devotees do before a entering temple, proves that you are showing the nation of its Hindu ethos. Please extend this further and Hinduise Bharat by implementing the above suggestions.

If you implement even some of my above suggestions during the first few years of your Prime Ministership, I am sure the entire nation will remain indebted to you. A Hinduised Bharat will vote for you to be its PM for at least another two terms.

Thanking you and wishing you a long inning as PM,

Yours, In the Services of Bharat Mata
P. Deivamuthu, Editor, Hindu Voice.

Two simple things to atheist friends

From: Bhavesh Merjia
Subject: Two simple things to atheist friends
(The inserts in italics are by Skanda987)

(I)
The response makes it clear that the atheists are not in a position to give a single example of a material thing which is produced without any sort of involvement of any conscious doer or kartaa.
What time the doer or kartaa takes in making something? – is entirely a different question. Raising such a different question, leaving the point under discussion aside, displays the sign of inability to stand on the issue. This is called ‘Vishayaantar’ i.e. shifting the issue.

(II)
If creation of the natural elements are ‘well documented’ (as the atheists say), then why this question – “WHO HAS ESTABLISHED & MAINTAINED THIS MATHEMATICAL SERIES in these basic elements of nature?” Is it not honestly answered by the enthusiastic atheist?

Doesn’t an atheist acknowledge the presence of science of mathematics in the structures of these natural elements tabulated in the Periodical Table?
If yes, then kindly tell who has applied this science in structures of these natural elements?
Do inert elements possess the knowledge of mathematics?
Can we imagine presence of knowledge without its conscious substratum?
Can an attribute exist without its substratum?
Kindly try to understand. Knowledge proves presence of some conscious entity (who has that knowledge.)

Krishna says in Guta verse 7.4:
“Earth, water, fire, air, ether, mind, intelligence and false ego–all together these eight comprise My separated material energies.”

This is called prakriti in the Vedic literature. It is personified as goddess(es).

Krishna says in Gita verse 9.10:
“This material nature is working under My direction, O son of Kunti, and it is producing all moving and unmoving beings. By its rule this manifestation is created and annihilated again and again.”

Knowledge is an attribute. It cannot be imagined without its substratum.

Theism is not against science and technology. It only says that as the physical things exist, same way two conscious entities (one God and second – so many souls) do also exist. It is not a rule that only inert, physical entities can have existence. Conscious entities also can exist. That is why in the list of ‘Dravyas’ (substances or substratums), ‘Aatmaa’ (God & Soul) are also included in the Vedic philosophy.

If we accept the existence of these conscious entities and take them in the correct way, we can have still better life.

Still, if someone wishes not to accept the existence of God and/or soul, it is one’s freedom.

(Some atheists are out to make others atheists. They haveno interst for dialogue to understand the truth. Only a few atheists are interested to know the trith, and when they find it, they accept it. Such an atheists Narendra, who instantly became a theists after Swami Ramkrishna put him in Samadhi by holding his thumb for a few seconds. With such atheist the Vedics will dialoge, but hot with the other type. They will need several human births to come to know the existence of God.)

With this message I stop as I can’t spare more time on this issue. However, my atheist friends are free to cherish this as their victory. I would not object.

Bhavesh Merja

Exodus of Kashmiri Pandits by Islam

From: Satish Oberoi

Issue Book Excerpt: Kashmir: Its Aborigines and their Exodus
Date : 25 Apr , 2014

On Jan, 04, 1990, a local Urdu newspaper, Aftab, published a press release issued by Hizb-ul-Mujahideen, asking all Pandits to leave the Valley immediately. Al Safa, another local daily repeated the warning. These warnings were followed by Kalashnikov-wielding masked Jehadis carrying out military-type marches openly. Reports of killing of Kashmiri Pandits continued to pour in. Bomb explosions and sporadic firing by militants became a daily occurrence.

Explosive and inflammatory speeches being broadcast from the public address systems of the mosques became frequent. Thousands of audio cassettes, carrying similar propaganda, were played at numerous places in the Valley, in order to instill fear into the already terrified Kashmiri Pandit community. Recalling these events, the former Director General of Jammu and Kashmir Police, Shri M M Khajooria says, “The mischief of the summer of 1989 started with serving notice to the prominent members of the minority community to quit Kashmir.

The letter said, ‘We order you to leave Kashmir immediately, otherwise your children will be harmed- we are not scaring you but this land is only for Muslims, and is the land of Allah. Sikhs and Hindus cannot stay here’. The threatening note ended with a warning, ‘If you do not obey, we will start with your children. Kashmir Liberation, Zindabad. ”1

*These slogans, broadcast from the loud speakers of every mosque, numbering roughly 1100, exhorted the hysterical mobs to embark on Jehad.

*They signaled the implementation of their intentions quite blatantly. M. L. Bhan of Khonmoh, Srinagar, a government employee, was killed on Jan 15, 1990. Baldev Raj Dutta, an operator in Lal chowk, Srinagar, was kidnapped on the same day. His dead body was found four days later, on Jan 19, 1990, at Nai Sarak, Srinagar. The body bore tell-tale marks of brutal torture.

*Night of Jan, 19, 1990

*The night witnessed macabre happenings, the like of which had not been witnessed by Kashmiri Pandits after the Afghan rule. Those that experienced the fear of that night are unlikely to forget it in their life time. For future generations, it will be a constant reminder of the brutality of Islamic radicals, who had chosen the timing very carefully. “Farooq Abdullah, whose government had all but seized to exist, resigned. Jagmohan arrived during the day to take charge as the Governor of the State. ”2 He took over the charge of the Governor just the previous night at Jammu. He had made efforts to reach Srinagar during the previous day, but the plane had to return to Jammu from Pir Panjal Pass, due to extremely bad weather. Though curfew was imposed to restore some semblance of order, it had little effect. The mosque pulpits continued to be used to exhort people to defy curfew and join Jehad against the Pandits, while armed cadres of JKLF marched through the streets of the Valley, terrorizing them no end.

As the night fell, the microscopic community became panic-stricken when the Valley began reverberating with the war-cries of Islamists, who had stage-managed the whole event with great care; choosing its timing and the slogans to be used. A host of highly provocative, communal and threatening slogans, interspersed with martial songs, incited the Muslims to come out on the streets and break the chains of ‘slavery’. These exhortations urged the faithful to give a final push to the Kafir in order to ring in the true Islamic order. These slogans were mixed with precise and unambiguous threats to Pandits. They were presented with three choices — Ralive, Tsaliv ya Galive (convert to Islam, leave the place or perish). Tens of thousands of Kashmiri Muslims poured into the streets of the Valley, shouting ‘death to India’ and death to Kafirs.

These slogans, broadcast from the loud speakers of every mosque, numbering roughly 1100, exhorted the hysterical mobs to embark on Jehad. All male Muslims, including their children and the aged, wanted to be seen to be participating in this Jehad. Those who had organized such a show of force in the middle of a cold winter night, had only one objective; to put the fear of death into the hearts of the already frightened Pandits. In this moment of collective hysteria, gone was the facade of secular, tolerant, cultured, peaceful and educated outlook of Kashmiri Muslims, which the Indian intelligentsia and the liberal media had made them to wear for their own reasons.

*Most of the Kashmiri Muslims behaved as if they did not know who the Pandits were.

*Most of the Kashmiri Muslims behaved as if they did not know who the Pandits were. This frenzied mass hysteria went on till Kashmiri Pandits’ despondency turned into desperation, as the night wore itself out.

For the first time after independence of India from the British rule, Kashmiri Pandits found themselves abandoned to their fate, stranded in their own homes, encircled by rampaging mobs. Through the frenzied shouts and blood-curdling sloganeering of the assembled mobs, Pandits saw the true face of in¬tolerant and radical Islam. It represented the complete antithesis of the over-rated ethos of Kashmiriyat that was supposed to define Kashmiri ethos.

The pusillanimous Central Government was caught napping and its agencies in the State, particularly the army and other para military forces, did not consider it necessary to intervene, in the absence of any orders. The State Government had been so extensively subverted that the skeleton staff of the administration at Srinagar (the winter capital of the State had shifted to Jammu in November 1989) decided not to confront the huge mobs. Delhi was too far away, anyway.

*Hundreds of Kashmiri Pandits phoned everyone in authority at Jammu, Srinagar and Delhi, to save them from the sure catastrophe that awaited them.

*Hundreds of Kashmiri Pandits phoned everyone in authority at Jammu, Srinagar and Delhi, to save them from the sure catastrophe that awaited them. The pleadings for help were incessant. But not a soldier came to their rescue. Therefore, Kashmiri Pandits found best protection in huddling together indoors, frozen with fear, praying for the night to pass. The foreboding of the impending doom was too over-powering to let them have even a wink of sleep.

The Pandits could see the writing on the wall. If they were lucky enough to see the night through, they would have to vacate the place before they met the same fate as Tikka Lal Taploo and many others. The Seventh Exodus was surely staring them in the face. By morning, it became apparent to Pandits that Kashmiri Muslims had decided to throw them out from the Valley. Broadcasting vicious Jehadi sermons and revolutionary songs, interspersed with blood curdling shouts and shrieks, threatening Kashmiri Pandits with dire consequences, became a routine ‘Mantra’ of the Muslims of the Valley, to force them to flee from Kashmir.

*Some of the slogans used were:* “Zalimo, O Kafiro, Kashmir harmara chod do”.

(O! Merciless, O! Kafirs leave our Kashmir)

“Kashmir mein agar rehna hai, Allah-ho-Akbar kahna hoga”

(Any one wanting to live in Kashmir will have to convert to Islam)

La Sharqia la gharbia, Islamia! Islamia!

From East to West, there will be only Islam

“Musalmano jago, Kafiro bhago”,

(O! Muslims, Arise, O! Kafirs, scoot)

“Islam hamara maqsad hai, Quran hamara dastur hai, jehad hamara Rasta hai”

(Islam is our objective, Q’uran is our constitution, Jehad is our way of our life)

“Kashmir banega Pakistan”

(Kashmir will become Pakistan)

“Kashir banawon Pakistan, Bataw varaie, Batneiw saan”

(We will turn Kashmir into Pakistan alongwith Kashmiri Pandit women, but without their men folk)

“Pakistan se kya Rishta? La Ilah-e- Illalah”

(Islam defines our relationship with Pakistan)

Dil mein rakho Allah ka khauf; Hath mein rakho Kalashnikov.

(With fear of Allah ruling your hearts, wield a Kalashnikov)

“Yahan kya chalega, Nizam-e- Mustafa”

(We want to be ruled under Shari’ah)

“People’s League ka kya paigam, Fateh, Azadi aur Islam”

(“What is the message of People’s League? Victory, Freedom and Islam. ”)

*Wall posters in fairly large letters, proclaiming Kashmir as ‘Islamic Republic of Kashmir’, became a com¬mon sight in the entir Valley. So were the big and prominent advertisements in local dailies, proclaiming their intent:

*‘Aim of the present struggle is the supremacy of Islam in Kashmir, in all walks of life and nothing else. Any one who puts a hurdle in our way will be annihilated’.

*Press release of Hizb-ul-Mujahideen (HM) published in the morning edition of Urdu Daily ‘Aftab’ of April, 01, 1990.

* ‘Kashmiri Pandits responsible for duress against Muslims should leave the Valley within two days’.

*Head lines of Urdu Daily, Al Safa, of April, 14, 1990.

*‘With Kalashnikov in one hand and Quran in the other the Mujahids would openly roam the streets singing the Tarana-e- Kashmir. ’

Notes:

Shri M M Khajooria, former Director General ofJammu and Kashmir Police. Kanchan Gupta: Pioneer, Aug 10, 2008.

Was the Babri Masjid Demolition Justified?

From Sri Venkat

Was the Babri Masjid Demolition Justified?

(First the need is to answer: Was Godhra carnage justified? Is the forcible invasion of Islaam in Hindustan justified? Are/were riots, all began by Muslims against the Hindus, justified? Is the overnight expulsion of Kashmiri Pandits from Kashmir justified; is keeping them as refuges in their own country justified? Is the treatment of the majority of the people, the Hindus in India, as 3d class people by the congress Gov. justified? Is the anti-Hindu, and therefore anti majority constitution of Hindustan justified? – Skanda987)

What do Indians feel about the Babri Masjid demolition? Was it justified? Was it long time coming? Was it inevitable? What do they think about governments role in it? What do you conclude about India’s law enforcing agencies competence and capability?

I will give you a study in contrasts. Look at the story of the Somnath temple:

Somnath …The ruins were pulled down in October 1950 and the mosque present at that site was shifted few miles away…

Ayodhya is equivalent to the Jerusalem for Christians and Mecca for Muslims – one of the holiest sites as far as Hindus are concerned.

Local lore in the Ayodhya has always maintained that Babur destroyed a flourishing Hindu temple, built on the same hallowed grounds where Lord Ram himself was born. This last part is important – it is an article of faith, whose historical validity is difficult, if not impossible to prove. What may be easier to prove, is that the mosque was built over an ancient temple. Recent archaeological assessments have indicated as such: wikipedia.org Archaeology of Ayodhya …The excavations gave ample traces that there was a mammoth pre-existing structure beneath the three-domed Babri structure…

So going back in history – the Indian partition was achieved after significant Hindu-Muslim tension, which included ethnic cleansing of Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistani areas, as well as reprisal killings of Muslims in Hindu/Sikh dominated areas: Partition of India

Ethnic cleansing of Hindus continued in Pakistan even after it had completely broken away and became independent: 1950 East Bengal genocide 1964 East Pakistan genocide

Dialing back to 1947, Hindu pride was the order of the day, and similar to the Jews in 1947 Israel, there was an urgent need felt to resurrect the old symbols of Hindu pride – Ayodhya being the primary one, along with others like Somnath.

In Somnath, the local government faced no interference in its plan to relocate a pre-existing minor mosque, in order to facilitate the rehabilitation of a symbol of immense Hindu pride.

However, Ayodhya was smack-dab in the middle of Nehru’s sphere of geographic influence – the British United Provinces. So instead of attempting to facilitate a cooperative dialog to relocate a mosque that had no real symbolism to Muslims, he basically ignored the issue. So the local Hindu entities tried to obtain through subterfuge, what should otherwise have been achieved through full cooperation of the executive…. by installing idols into the disputed structure on the sly. Ayodhya dispute

The net result was a legal dispute, which pits Muslims against Hindus. Since this dispute has festered for so many years (originally since 1859), and since Hindus feel that the mosque itself has nowhere close to the symbolism as the site has to Hindus, the lack of a cooperative out-of-court settlement is viewed as a symbol of continued Muslim intransigence and inability to respect the religious sentiments of Hindus.

To answer your specific questions: Was the demolition justified? Slippery Slope – not sure anyone can justify a blatant disregard for court orders. But as the commentary above indicates – this is as much a religious and emotive issue, as it is a legal issue.

Was it a long time coming? If you agree with the religious/emotive sentiment, then 1859 to 1992 is a long time coming

Was it inevitable? No. Like Somnath – either a forceful executive intervention or a government facilitated co-operative compromise to shift the mosque could have avoided the demolition. I doubt if anything could have been done to change the article of faith that Lord Ram was actually born there, and therefore the temple needs to be built at that site and not at an alternate site

What do we think about government’s role in it? The Indian Central Government’s insistence to completely ignore the religious sentiment behind the dispute has led to a deep sense of “perceived” persecution in the minds of a large majority of Hindus.

In 1947, Muslims had a genuine fear that accepting a “climb down” on Ayodhya would lead to repeated claims on other Muslim mosque properties. This is no longer tenable. By some estimates, close to 300,000 functioning mosques exist in India, along with significant land holdings for many many more. 10 facts about India (Sorry for the poor source – but trust me that they are numerous) Sachar wanted Indian Wakf Service; govt. rejected it without any reason …Wakf boards across India have land holdings of more than 6 lakh acres

So the Government should be able to drive some sort of grand compromise. For instance, full completion of a Ram temple in Ayodhya, in return for a shifting/relocation of the Babri masjid as well as a commitment from Hindu groups to abandon similar historical claims at other sites (e.g. Kashi and Mathura).

The failure to drive such a compromise is a failure of the government – both at the local/state level as well as at the central level. This issue could and should have been solved in the 1950’s itself. In fact, multiple Muslim groups have repeatedly called for some sort of compromise along these lines mentioned in the paragraph above. However, by taking a strictly legal view of the dispute, the government has abdicated it’s responsibility for solving the dispute, and passed the “hot potato” to the Indian courts and India’s legal system.

What do you conclude about India’s law enforcing agencies competence and capability? The law enforcing agencies are firmly in the control of the executive. Law enforcement is a state subject. The central government can intervene only in exceptional conditions – for instance, there is a provision to disband a state government if it fails to uphold the constitution.

In the Ayodhya case, the central government had no legal basis to intervene pro-actively. You cannot remove a state government on a hypothetical assumption that it is not going to uphold the rule of law. Till the actual date of the demolition, the state government had followed all laws and judgments of the Indian courts.

On the day of the demolition, you can fault the state government for not providing sufficient forces (likely deliberately) to prevent the (extremely large) mob from storming the mosque premises.

However, as with many other instances, the law enforcing agencies were in no position (either materially or numerically) to prevent the demolition. So the actual demolition should not lead to a overly negative view on the competence and capabilities of India’s law enforcing agencies.

When given sufficient political support/leadership and requisite materials/numbers, India’s law enforcing agencies have been extremely successful in enforcing the rule of law.

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Hypothetically, if Islamic invaders had ransacked the Sistine Chapel inside the Vatican and built a mosque in its place, and a few hundred years later, Europe decided to rebuild the Sistine chapel by tearing down the mosque – I am fairly sure it would face very little opposition.

The demolition, in my humble opinion, was one (not very democratic) way Hindus cried out against oppression in their own homeland where they constitute an overwhelming majority. What we’ve largely forgotten due to 500 years of Islamic invasion, 200 years of British Raj and 50+ years of Nehruvian minority appeasement is that India is Hindu country and it is as sacred to Indian Hindus as is Mecca to Islam and Jerusalem / Vatican to Christianity. Islam came to India in the form of invaders of our land, pillagers of our riches, rapists of our women and murderers of our armies. As if this was not brutal enough, the invading armies built symbols of Islam (mosques) on the desecrated ruins of Hindu shrines to showcase their alleged superiority. One such mosque was built over Ram temple in Ayodhya. That this mosque was used purely as a symbol of “Islam trumps Hinduism” is proved by the fact that the mosque wasn’t even used as a place of worship by the Muslims of Ayodhya and was largely deserted.

My personal opinion therefore is that the Hindu demand for demolishing the mosque built over the holy birthplace of Shri Ram is justified, however the means to achieve the same could have been different. One must caveat that by saying, given the appeasement mentality of the congress-nehruvian government, a judicial process would likely have not yielded the desired solution.

I am an Indian Hindu – my reason for anonymity is that people (and friends) often confuse my pro-hindutva views as implying islamophobia, which is simply not true. It would be hard for anyone who has read history to deny the brutality with which Islam came to India. That said, I have no issues with Islam and Islamic practices in the Middle East, North Africa, etc., where Islam is the dominating religion and where the religion originated. Similarly, Hinduism is deeply entwined with the very concept of India and therefore cultural and historical symbols of Hinduism in India should be protected from foreign ideals and forces.

http://www.quora.com/Indian-People/What-do-Indians-feel-about-the-Babri-Masjid-demolition

American Airlines Pilot Speaks His Mind

From: Satish Oberio

From: Tehmasp Mogul
AMERICAN AIRLINES PILOT SPEAKS HIS MIND
No name calling, no hatred, no political agenda.

CANADIAN COMMENT APPEARS AT THE END OF THE ARTICLE AND IS MEANINGFUL.
THERE IS ALSO SOME RECENTLY ADDED BRITISH COMMENT.

This pilot hit the nail right on the head in his open letter.

A newspaper stated that some Muslim doctor is saying we are profiling him because he has been checked three times while getting on an airplane. The following is a letter from a pilot. This well- spoken man, who is a pilot with American Airlines, says what is in his heart, beautifully.

YOU WORRY ME!
By Captain John Maniscalco, American Airlines Pilot

I’ve been trying to say this since 911, but you worry me. I wish you didn’t. I wish when I walked down the streets of this country that I love, that your color and culture still blended with the beautiful human landscape we enjoy in this country. But you don’t blend in anymore. I notice you, and it worries me.

I notice you because I can’t help it anymore. People from your homelands, professing to be Muslims, have been attacking and killing my fellow citizens and our friends for more than 20 years now. I don’t fully understand their grievances and hate, but I know that nothing can justify the inhumanity of their attacks.

On September 11, ARAB-MUSLIMS hijacked four jetliners in my country. They cut the throats of women in front of children and brutally stabbed to death others. They took control of those planes and crashed them into buildings, killing thousands of proud fathers, loving sons, wise grandparents, elegant daughters, best friends, favorite coaches, fearless public servants, and children’s mothers.

The Palestinians celebrated, the Iraqis were overjoyed as was most of the Arab world. So, I notice you now. I don’t want to be worried. I don’t want to be consumed by the same rage, hate and prejudice that has destroyed the soul of these terrorists. But I need your help. As a rational American, trying to protect my country and family in an irrational and unsafe world, I must know how to tell the difference between you, and the Arab/Muslim terrorist.

How do I differentiate between the true Arab/Muslim Americans and the Arab/Muslim terrorists in our communities who are attending our schools, enjoying our parks, and living in OUR communities under the protection of OUR constitution, while they plot the next attack that will slaughter MORE of the same good neighbors and children?

The events of September 11 changed the answer.. It is not MY responsibility to determine which of you embraces our great country, with ALL of its religions, with ALL of its different citizens, with all of its faults. It is time for every Arab/Muslim in this country to determine it for me.

I want to know, I DEMAND to know and I have a right to know, whether or not you love America ….. Do you pledge allegiance to its flag? Do you proudly display it in front of your house, or on your car? Do you pray in your many daily prayers that Allah will bless this nation; that He will protect it and let it prosper? Or do you pray that Allah will destroy it in one of your Jihads? Are you thankful for the freedom that this nation affords, a freedom that was paid for by the blood of hundreds of thousands of patriots who gave their lives for this country? Are you willing to preserve this freedom by also paying the ultimate sacrifice? Do you love America?? If this is your commitment, then I need YOU to start letting ME know about it

Your Muslim leaders in this nation should be flooding the media at this time with hard facts on your faith, and what hard actions YOU are taking as a community and as a religion to protect the United States of America. Please, no more benign overtures of regret for the death of the innocent, because I worry about who you regard as innocent…. No more benign overtures of condemnation for the unprovoked attacks, because I worry about what is unprovoked to you. I am not interested in any more sympathy; I am interested only in action. What will you do for America – our great country – at this time of crisis, at this time of war?

I want to see Arab-Muslims waving the AMERICAN flag in the streets. I want to hear you chanting ‘Allah Bless America’. I want to see young Arab/Muslim men enlisting in the military. I want to see a commitment of money, time and emotion to the victims of this butchering and to this nation as a whole.

The FBI has a list of over 400 people they want to talk to regarding the WTC attack. Many of these people live and socialize right now in Muslim communities. You know them. You know where they are. Hand them over to us, NOW! But I have seen little even approaching this sort of action. Instead I have seen an already closed and secretive community close even tighter. You have disappeared from the streets. You have posted armed security guards at your facilities. You have threatened lawsuits. You have screamed for protection from reprisals.
The very few Arab/Muslim representatives that HAVE appeared in the media were defensive and equivocating. They seemed more concerned with making sure that the United States proves who was responsible before taking action. They seemed more concerned with protecting their fellow Muslims from violence directed towards them in the United States and abroad than they did with supporting our country and denouncing ‘leaders’ like Khadafi, Hussein, Farrakhan, and Arafat.

IF the true teachings of Islam proclaim tolerance and peace and love for all people, then I want chapter and verse from the Koran and statements from popular Muslim leaders to back it up. What good is it if the teachings in the Koran are good, pure, and true, when your ‘leaders’ ARE teaching fanatical interpretations, terrorism, and intolerance? It matters little how good Islam SHOULD BE if huge numbers of the world’s Muslims interpret the teachings of Mohammed incorrectly and adhere to a degenerative form of the religion. A form that has been demonstrated to us over and over again. A form whose structure is built upon a foundation of violence, death, and suicide. A form whose members are recruited from the prisons around the world. A form whose members (some as young as five years old) are seen day after day, week in and week out, year after year, marching in the streets around the world, burning effigies of our presidents, burning the American flag, shooting weapons into the air. A form whose members convert from a peaceful religion, only to take up arms against the great United States of America, the country of their birth. A form whose rules are so twisted, that their traveling members refuse to show their faces at airport security checkpoints, in the name of Islam.

We will NEVER allow the attacks of September 11, or any others for that matter, to take away that which is so precious to us — our rights under the greatest constitution in the world. I want to know where every Arab Muslim in this country stands and I think it is my right and the right of every true citizen of this country to DEMAND it. A right paid for by the blood of thousands of my brothers and sisters who died protecting the very constitution that is protecting you and your family.

I am pleading with you to let me know. I want you here as my brother, my neighbor, my friend, as a fellow American…… But there can be no grey areas or ambivalence regarding your allegiance, and it is up to YOU, to show ME, where YOU stand. Until then, “YOU WORRY ME!”

CANADIAN COMMENTS:
I totally agree with this sentiment. I hope you will forget all about the ‘political correctness’ mandate we’ve had rammed down our throats, and see if this doesn’t ring true in your heart and mind. For Canada, with all the multiculturalism we’ve been told is so important….why should we not, as Canadians, expect that the millions of new people immigrating to our country will show their love for our country, their allegiance to our country, their willingness to obey the laws of our country, and acceptance that we are a Christian country? Just because they are able to enjoy exercising their own religion, they should NOT expect us to be ashamed of ours. They knew Canada was a Christian country when they came here. Why are we erasing Christianity because immigrants who are unwilling to adopt our way of life expect us to? There is just too much insanity in the world, and we have to start taking a stand.
I hope you will forward this, so that others will feel they are not alone if they are starting to feel the same.

BRITISH COMMENTS:
At last a clear non-racist example of the concerns that the vast majority of our Nation’s population probably share. The pilot’s letter encapsulates all that is fair and just about national pride and protection of one’s national culture. I fear it may be too late here in UK, BUT we too want our country back in the form that attracted all these different cultures to come here in the first place!! In all our conversations with a wide range of friends and acquaintances we have not met one that disagrees with our own views. If only we all had the courage of our convictions to pass this on, it is a statement that should be accepted as the heart-felt feelings of someone with honest commendable national pride.

AUSTRALIAN COMMENT:
Best email I have had in years it needs to be in every paper every day until we get some answers.

SKANDA’S (A VEDIC’S) COMMNET:
Anyone who studies Islam’s whole 1400 years history that is full of violence and forcible conversions against the non-Muslims, and the messages in Koran, Hadith, and Sira, will objectively conclude that all the kafir (non-Muslim) people and countries should worry if Islam is present within or in the neighborhood. India – the country of the Hindus since millenniums – has suffered from Islam the most since 1000 years than any other country. The only way to become free from the worry is to purge Islam out of the country or neighborhood. There are now may websites that expose Islam. No, Islam is not a religion of peace at all but contrary. There cannot be peace where there is Islam. Below link has some articles that expose Islam.
https://skanda987.wordpress.com/category/islam/

Profiles of the Peoples’ rights provocateurs and armed conflict resolvers in USA

Profiles of the Peoples’ rights provocateurs and armed conflict resolvers in USA

From: Rakhal Saha via returns.groups.yahoo.com
Mar 9, 2014

http://bharatkalyan97.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/peoples-rights-provocateurs-and-armed.html

Peoples’ rights provocateurs and armed conflict resolvers — profiles.

The key statement is here: “… technical protocols… implemented with the aid and participation of civil society and affected populations; it would serve as a model for other countries.”
In American idiom, this can be countered: Don’t fix things that ain’t broke. Mind your business. Don’t make India an American academic guinea pig for armed conflicts.

It is time for Capitol Hill and Whitehouse to re-evaluate purpose of ‘scholarly’ American traditions while engaging in ‘Hindu studies’.

American academe, mind your own business of education. Don’t step on India’s toes. Don’t try to make a model for your protocols of armed conflicts.

This is a follow-up of
http://bharatkalyan97.blogspot.in/2014/03/american-university-prepares-for-riots.html

American University prepares for riots in India. Should this be called academic research activism?

On further deliberation, the University research project in collaboration with an affiliate apparent ‘science’ outfit called Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory is clearly an interference in the internal affairs of an independent, sovereign nation — India.
The usual cover for the covert initiative is human rights and conflict resolution.

Why does it take an American institution to be uninvited guests for resolution of an imagined conflict? Shouldn’t Obama administration get concerned that such parallel academic interventions undermine the US foreign policy and the imperative of maintaining with a nation with over 1250 million people striding an Indian Ocean Rim with over 59 nations which live under the traditions of dharma-dhamma?

Has American academe forgotten the wisdom imparted by the great American historian: Will Durant? Will Durant who authored a 11-volume history of philosophy and narrated the story of civilizations observed: “India was the motherland of our race, and Sanskrit the mother of Europe’s languages: she was the mother of our philosophy; mother, through the Arabs, of much of our mathematics; mother, through the Buddha, of the ideals embodied in Christianity; mother, through the village community, of self-government and democracy. Mother India is in many ways the mother of us all”.
See more at: http://bharatkalyan97.blogspot.in/2014/02/call-for-us-commission-of-inquiry-into.html?q=will+durant
The analyses of the American University project are presented in two parts: 1. A Few issues; 2. Some Questions

We hope that the deliberations will be joined by many citizens of the world elaborating further on the issues and answering some questions raised.

Part 1: A Few Issues

1. The project list reads like a “Who’s Who” of the Forum of Indian/Inquilabi Leftists (FOIL), and the “Coalition Against Genocide” (CAG), a loose coalition of groups including the FOIL and IAMC. Members of this Coalition have been associated with the Pakistani Inter Services Intelligence Agency, and other suspected connections to international organizations as well as political parties, particularly the Indian National Congress, the Communist Party of India (Marxist/Leninist/Maoist) and to Evangelist Christian organizations and their activist arms such as the Christian Aid group. There are some suspected links to foreign terrorist organizations such as the Khalistan groups, the SIMI, through the Indian Muslim Council, the Maoists in India, to secessionist groups active in Jammu-Kashmir, and to interests in Odisha and Chhattisgarh.

The FOIL and CAG have been studied in articles in the early 2000s, in the book titled “NGOs and Foreign Funding: Anti-National Industry” edited by Kishan Kak and Radha Rajan and a recent report by the Hindu American Foundation. In 1997-2002, Ms. Teesta Setalwad’s “Sabrang” organization channeled funds to the FOIL to develop a “5-year comprehensive research report” that attacked the India Development and Relief Fund. Dr. Angana Chatterji was a primary author of that report. Dr. Vinay Lal was the spokesman for the FOIL. The attack was proven to be baseless. The thorough debunking of that report was published in the book “IDRF: Let the Facts Speak”. Since then, the FOIL has reorganized on several occasions to launch campaigns, generally against India and particularly against the government of Gujarat.

2. It may be useful to remember the past. In October 2001, while the world was in upheaval after the 9/11 attacks in the USA, and Pakistani terrorism was spiking in Kashmir, the Oberlin College Trust in Ohio announced a conference to be held in April 2002, titled: “Siting Secularism in India”. The Oberlin Foundation, a Christian missionary organization, has excellent relations with the Shanxi University in China, with specific approval from the government of the PRC. (See http://shansi.org/about-shansi/history/ for a recently sanitized version).

Around that time, the FOIL seemed to have received a sudden influx of funding, and started an active campaign. They hurriedly revived their dormant publication, “Ghadar” citing the urgent need to get organized and conduct a media campaign, since they expected “a loud noise that will be heard around the world” or words to that effect. In January they held a meeting in Maryland, USA. The Siting Secularism in India conference occurred just a few weeks after the events of late February 2002, with many visitors from the US, India, UK and France, most of them with Communist/Islamist leanings.

The only business at that conference for which any record can be found, is an Oberlin Resolution condemning the government of India for alleged genocide against minorities. Those who remember this, find the parallels with the present Project to be chilling. We wonder what “loud noise” is anticipated this time. Note that we have no evidence to link any of these entities directly to any violence, and are not claiming any. However, their apparent foresight and timing seem remarkable.

3. Dr. Angana Chatterji’s activities and visits in India have perhaps coincidentally, preceded violence in the parts where she focused her activities. Examples are Gujarat, Chattisgarh, Odisha, and Jammu-Kashmir.

4. Circa 2010, Dr. Chatterji and her US citizen husband Dr. Richard Shapiro, were asked to terminate their visit to Jammu-Kashmir. Shapiro was asked to leave India, and later denied a visa to enter India.

5. On July 19, 2011, Ghulam Nabi Fai, Kashmir activist in the USA, was indicted in US Federal Court for being an agent of the Pakistani ISI. The indictment listed his contacts with/ funding of a woman code-named “Mary” for making a presentation before a UN panel, presenting the Pakistani point of view on Jammu-Kashmir.
In May 2011, Dr. Chatterji made a presentation to a UN Panel to raise Kashmir issues.

On July 19, 2011, the California Institute for Integral Studies suspended Drs. Chatterji and Shapiro, tenured full professors (he was Department Head), citing financial and other irregularities. Both were later dismissed after faculty hearings. CIIS denied any link to their outside activities.

6. Although the project claims to develop policies and protocols for nations around the world, there is no indication of any activities directed at any nation other than India.

7. The project claims interest in various troubled parts of India, including Jammu-Kashmir, Odisha, Chhattisgarh, the Northeast, and Punjab. The inclusion of Teesta Setalwad and Harsh Mander suggest that the main interest is in Gujarat. Ms. Setalwad has several allegations filed against her in India and has sought anticipatory bail again. Mr. Mander, during and after his tenure as IAS officer, has a history of association with the British NGO Action Aid, which shares origins and close synergy with Christian Aid, which is active in conversions in the tribal regions of Gujarat and elsewhere in India.

8. The Lok Sabha elections in India are only two and a half months away.

Part 2: Some Questions

1. Who is sponsoring this project?

2. Who are the Members of the Indian Parliament and other lawmakers in India that this project intends to “engage” or co-opt? Have they already been approached and have they agreed? Are they also sponsoring it?

3. Given the background of Ms. Teesta Setalwad’s fundraising and past activities, is the Congress Party funding this enterprise as well?

4. Why are such Protocols and Policies for India, the largest sovereign democracy in the world, being developed in America, and by a group that has a clearly one-sided political bias and record?

5. Why is a person whose primary employment is with a US Federal Laboratory focused on bringing science to public welfare, engaged in such a project which has clear overtones and undertones of interfering in the politics/public policy dealing with internal armed conflict of a friendly foreign nation?

6. Why is this project within Dr. Buluswar’s or the LBNL’s mandate?

7. Why is this project dealing with making protocols for armed conflict, sited within a Business School?

8. Why is the staffing of such a project done exclusively with people who have such a colored record, with no effort to strike a balance between law enforcement interests and secessionist/subversive interests?

9. Is the University of California, Berkeley, aware of Dr. Angana Chatterji’s prior activities involving Kashmir and the United Nations, among others?

APPENDIX: Quotes from the website
http://nonprofit.haas.berkeley.edu/research/acr.html#Network
“This project seeks to create a policy and protocol framework for protecting people’s rights in situations of internal armed conflict and mass violence. Interdisciplinary in practice and rooted in local knowledge, this project seeks to define steps in conflict resolution through capacity building for psychosocial healing and the amelioration of abuses. In so doing, we contend with the condition of violence and the contested terrain of human rights and transitional justice.

India serves as a case in point, given that several diverse parts of the country are beset by armed conflict. Civilian populations—especially children, youth, women and minorities—suffer in the absence of adequate governance, access to responsible development, and the preservation of human rights.
The National Human Rights Commission of India, in its submission to the UN Human Rights Council for India’s Second Universal Periodic Review (2008), stated: “There are inordinate delays in the provision of justice… There is still no national action plan for human rights.” but separate outputs: a Policy document and several Protocols.
Contemporary conflicts and transitional contexts will inform the development of this policy and the protocols.

The regions of Jammu Kashmir, Manipur, and Chhattisgarh are differently but persistently affected by conflict, with conflict-related issues intermittently occurring in Punjab. Additionally, areas such as Gujarat and Odisha have been impacted by far-reaching violence on minority communities in recent history.

These conflicts are spurred by a myriad of issues, including cultural and communal identity, religionization, self-determination, and economic empowerment. Such conflicts can have far-reaching human impact and lead to intense psychosocial and economic suffering of civilian populations in the affected areas, collapse of responsible governance, development, and social protection mechanisms, and can also have a broader disruptive effect impacting national, regional, and global security.

The importance of this project lies in the fact that nothing close to a policy framework with attendant protocols currently exists in India that protects civilians and their rights in areas of armed conflict and mass violence, in a way that is consistent with India’s legal, ethical, and constitutional obligations, even as brutal conflicts and suffering continue.

If such a policy framework is adopted in India, and appropriate technical protocols are implemented with the aid and participation of civil society and affected populations, it would serve as a model for other countries.”

Objectives

In the development of the Policy and Protocols, this project will focus on questions of transitional and transformative justice.
These questions pertain to issues of access to justice and conflict resolution; accountability and human rights; governance and the rule of law; gendered violence; minority rights; religious freedom; memory and healing; commitment to nonviolence; mechanisms for restitution and redressal; and people’s rights and humanitarian considerations during and after conflict; as well as multi-sectoral approaches, including involving education technology and social enterprise, toward inclusive development.
Policy and Protocols:

The Policy will be a document proposing a general course of action with the long-term goal of justice and stability across the country.
The Protocols –blueprints of standards and steps for accountability and reparation pertaining to healing through reparatory, transitional, and transformative justice in areas of current conflict and post-conflict–will be specific to the issues presented by various conflicts in India. Topics of the protocols will include:

• Gendered violence and human rights during armed conflict and massified violence.
• Casualties and missing persons.
• Supporting survivors through holding all parties to the conflict accountable (army, paramilitary, police, and non-state armed groups).
• Impunity laws and failures of legal justice.
• Historical dialogue and alliance-building.
• Social trauma, memory, and psychosocial restitution.
• Humanitarian and socioeconomic development, such as women’s health, and access to education.
In the course of producing these outputs, the project will involve those affected by conflict in conceiving redress.
• It will initiate cross-cultural dialogue.
• The project will facilitate remembrance and documentation, and undertake to create an archive and web-based memorialization installations.
• It will involve progressive civil society and the next generation in India, the Diaspora, and the global community in dialogue on peace, nonviolence, and justice.
• The project will initiate pilot processes through which to identify mechanisms for psychosocial restitution and humanitarian efforts.
• The project will draw on diverse and plural imaginations of rights and justice in local, customary, and global traditions, in creating a framework for acknowledgement and remorse, accountability and justice, and healing and restitution.
• The project will avoid taking positions on political questions, focusing instead on human rights and humanitarian concerns.”

Why has BJP forgotten its nationalist agenda?

Why has BJP forgotten its nationalist agenda?

By J.G. Arora

Patriots Forum: March 11, 2014

Ever since it ruled the country from 1999-2004, Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) has been substantially de-based and de-Hinduised. Though its opponents term BJP as a Hindu outfit, BJP prefers to be known as a ‘secular’ party; and its leaders prefer to be known as ‘secular’ leaders.

And BJP’s pseudo-secular leaders have forsaken BJP’s nationalist ideology.

Though in their massive public meetings held across the country, BJP’s top leaders including its national president as also its Prime Ministerial candidate have proclaimed their ‘development’, ‘India first’, ‘vote for India’ and pseudo-secular agenda; they are silent about uniform civil code, abolition of Article 370, rehabilitation of Kashmiri Hindus in Kashmir, and infiltration of crores of Bangladeshis into India.

Besides, they have never asserted that if voted to power, they would implement the policy of genuine secularism which means justice for all and appeasement of none; and have never claimed that they would undo the fake secularists’ division of the nation into majority and minority, and would review the government’s policies and programmes which have been motivated by the politics of appeasement of minority.

Furthermore, though vide its judgement dated July 12, 2005, Supreme Court termed Bangladeshi infiltration as “external aggression” and held that “Bangladeshi nationals who have trespassed into Assam or are living in other parts of the country have no legal right to remain in India and they are liable to be deported”, like other fake-secular outfits, BJP is silent over crores of Bangladeshi infiltrators grabbing India. Not a single Bangladeshi infiltrator has been deported even from BJP ruled states.

This write-up explains that BJP must revive and re-assert its nationalist agenda if it wants to save India from disaster.

Sophistry of fake-secularism

Logically in 1947, on India’s partition on religious basis and creation of Pakistan as demanded by Muslims, truncated India should have been declared a Hindu republic to re-assert its Hindu identity. However, a perverse ‘secularism’ has been foisted on Bharat where anything which is anti-Hindu, pro-Muslim, divisive and sectarian is ‘secularism’ though genuine secularism connotes separation of state and religion; and non-discrimination on grounds of religion.

Most of Indian political parties practise the outrageous and fake ‘secularism’ which has resulted, inter alia, in crores of Bangladeshi infiltrators grabbing India bit by bit; genocide and eviction of Hindus from Kashmir; government control over all prominent Hindu temples whereas no mosque or church is covered by such control; special rights to Muslim majority Jammu & Kashmir under Article 370; scholarships, free-ships and incentives to non-Hindus by central and many state governments; demand for reservation for Muslims in government jobs even after the creation of Pakistan; and provision of Haj subsidy though none of 57 Islamic countries gives any such subsidy.

Congress-isation of BJP

Successor to nationalist Bharatiya Jana Sangh, ‘secularized’ and de-Hinduised BJP was formed in 1980. Because of its ‘secularisation’ and de-Hinduisation, BJP got just two Lok Sabha seats in 1984 elections. Shell-shocked BJP went back to Bharatiya Jana Sangh’s nationalist ideology; and attacked the Congress on issues of pseudo-secularism and appeasement, terrorism, pathetic plight of Kashmiri Hindus, Article 370, uniform civil code, infiltration of Bangladeshis, Shree Ram Janmabhoomi temple; and increased its tally to 182 seats in 1999 elections.

But during its 1999-2004 rule of the country, BJP forgot its nationalist ideology and agenda. It did not punish even the Pakistan-sponsored attack on Indian Parliament in December, 2001 since the then Prime Minister’s ‘fight to finish’ never started.

And though a really secular government cannot fund any religious pilgrimage, BJP increased the amount of Haj subsidy. Moreover, during the 2004 elections, the then Prime Minister A.B. Vajpayee offered two lakh jobs of Urdu teachers and substantial grants to Madrassas.

BJP’s traditional supporters were shocked at the Congress-isation of BJP. Consequently, BJP was unseated from power in 2004 when it won 135 Lok Sabha seats as against 182 seats in 1999.

Subsequently, L.K. Advani’s remarks about M.A. Jinnah’s secularism and BJP’s deplorable dilution of its ideology reduced its Lok Sabha tally to 116 seats in 2009 elections despite UPA’s atrocious policies during 2004-2009.

BJP’s defeat in 2004 and 2009 Parliamentary elections was not the defeat of BJP’s nationalist ideology; it was the defeat of BJP’s forsaking of its nationalist ideology.

Way out

BJP’s embrace of pseudo-secularism and forsaking of its nationalist ideology have destroyed its once unique identity. To save the nation from ruin, BJP must re-assert its nationalist agenda; and take the following steps:

i. BJP must reject the fake secularists’ division of the nation into majority and minority. BJP must proclaim that if voted to power, it would implement the policy of genuine secularism which means justice for all and appeasement of none; and same rights and duties for all citizens.

Moreover, since actions speak louder than the words, BJP must dismantle “Minority Cell” in BJP, and Minority Commissions in BJP ruled states. Human Rights Commissions would safeguard every citizen’s rights.

ii. Since nationalism includes development, good governance and pro-people policies, BJP must oppose divisive, communal and appeasement policies being pursued by fake-secular political parties in the name of ‘secularism’.

iii. BJP must work for uniform civil code as stipulated in Article 44 of the Constitution. Besides, it must work for deletion of Article 370 to bring Jammu & Kashmir’s complete integration with the rest of India.

iv. Lacs of Kashmiri Hindus have been driven out of Kashmir and forced to live like refugees in their own country. BJP should work for their rehabilitation in Kashmir.

v. BJP should work for liberation of Hindu temples and shrines from government control so that Hindus enjoy the same religious rights as enjoyed by other communities.

vi. BJP must work for implementation of Supreme Court’s judgements dated July 12, 2005 and December 5, 2006 to deport crores of Bangladeshi infiltrators; and for curbing the continuing infiltration of Pak-Bangla nationals.

vii. BJP should work for discontinuing all Indo-Pak and Indo-Bangla road and rail journeys, cultural and sports relations, and peace talks till Pakistan and Bangladesh stop their terrorist and demographic invasion against India.

Since politics of appeasement and fake-secularism pursued by various political parties has crippled India and divided the nation into majority and minority, BJP must re-embrace its nationalist ideology and take the above-mentioned steps if it wants to save the nation from looming disaster.

Aryan Invasion theory busted

From: Sudhir-Architect

All Indians have the same genes

It is established through genomic analyses that people in north India were no different from those in the south and that all shared the same genetic lineage. It also established that people of north and south were part of the same culture. former CCMB director Lalji Singh and two US researchers analyzed over 500,000 genetic markers across diverse groups, including the traditional “upper” /” lower” castes and tribal groups and proved that there was no difference between tribal populations and castes.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-01-01/special-report/30578749_1_genetic-mutation-disease-population

Aryan Invasion — History or Politics?
By Dr. N.S. Rajaram
Aryans: race or culture?

The evidence of science now points to two basic conclusions: first, there was no Aryan invasion, and second, the Rigvedic people were already established in India no later than 4000 BCE. How are we then to account for the continued presence of the Aryan invasion version of history in history books and encyclopedias even today?

http://www.archaeologyonline.net/artifacts/aryan-invasion-history.html
No foreign Genes or DNA entered India after 6000BC: Study [Myth Busted] ‏

A paper published on American Journal of Human Genetics exposes the famous lie that Europeans systematically planted into Indian brains: Aryan Invasion/ Migration theory. According to the research Dr Gyaneshwer Chaubey, Estonian Bio centre, Tartu, Estonia “We have proved that people all over India have common genetic traits and origin. All Indians have the same DNA structure. No foreign genes or DNA has entered the Indian mainstream in the last 60,000 years,”

Dr Chaubey had already proved in 2009 that Aryan migration is a false theory just made to divide Indians. He says “The decoding of human genome and other advances in this area help us in unraveling the ancestry in 60,000 years”

If we think straight, we do not need any genetically science to prove that Aryan invasion is a false theory. None of our Vedic scriptures gives direct information about this theory and also the Vedas can be still older than 5th century BC. India was eternally an Aryan nation, Aryan only means Noble. Even Ravana, who is an iconic figure for Dravidian parties, was a Brahmin.

http://www.newsofdelhi.com/society-religions/no-foreign-genes-or-dna-entered-india-after-60000-bc-study.